published Wednesday, December 18th, 2013

Merry Christmas

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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MasterBlaster said...

MUSH you lazy bastids! We need to deliver this wad of cash to our welfare queen! On to the Exxon compound!!!

December 18, 2013 at 12:20 a.m.
facyspacy said...

I think Clay meant to label this toon "merry winter season".

December 18, 2013 at 6:17 a.m.
conservative said...

That’s what we have been saying!

Santa Claus budgets and spending are and have been a huge burden on the taxpayer.

Wake up Liberals, there is no Santa Claus!

Cut the budget, cut the spending and lighten the load on the taxpayer.

December 18, 2013 at 7:08 a.m.
facyspacy said...

To Tiffany, on her posts about gun violence.nDid you know that in the US, children under the age of 15, that there were 106 deaths by accidental firearm discharge in 2012. 308 total by firearms in genral (homicide, mass shooting, accident, total). There were 540 in 2012 from drowning in a swimming pool. Over 500 last yr from fire. And over 3100 from poisoning from household cleaning items.

Every swimming pool a child swims in must first be built by an adult

December 18, 2013 at 7:09 a.m.
fairmon said...

The boomers insist on the kids and future generations supporting them in the life style to which they have become accustomed. Stop complaining and pull the wagon you young squirts. A few of you are confused and object to the borrowing, printing and spending but fortunately not many.

December 18, 2013 at 7:18 a.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

They even complain if someone says "Merry Christmas".

December 18, 2013 at 7:25 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Merry Christmas?? Toon-boy must be rockin the egg nog.

December 18, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.
Maximus said...

Fairmon....it's not the Boomers still living at home with their parents refusing to take a soul crushing job and voting for Barry The Welfare Elf! And Clay, had the Democrats gotten their way led by that obviously lesbian and dog faced congress women from Washington state, Patty Murray, they would have increased taxes and continued their bottomless budget spending habits for the rest of Barry The Welfare Pimps (I so like the title I coined don't you?) lame duck administration. Patty Murray, come on you dopers in Washington state, is that the best you can do? What a nerdy, fat, frumpy lesbian liberal retard she is. She looks like somebody Clay Bennett would date. Bet she wears Birkenstocks, celebrates Winter Solstice, has four dogs, shops at Whole Foods and drives either a Subaru, SMART car, or a Prius. Lol!

December 18, 2013 at 8:34 a.m.
fairmon said...

What do you mean private local volunteer charities are more effective than the D.C. Santa with his world wide reach? There is no discrimination between those in need and deserving and those not in need and not deserving. The D.C. Santa is the spreading expert and is in the giving business and never forgets his favorites.

December 18, 2013 at 8:40 a.m.
caddy said...

What do you expect from a greedy government, one that does not understand, obey God's laws. Oh wait, you expect "progress" because you are a progressive.

Got it.

December 18, 2013 at 8:46 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Progressive…..a perfectly good word ruined.

December 18, 2013 at 8:58 a.m.
Maximus said...

If Charles Dickens were alive today, a U.S. citizen, living in Barry The Welfare Pimp's world he would have never been inspired to write "A Christmas Carol" cause Bob Cratchet would have been on unemployment, the low income subsidy, EBT cards, and of course because of having to take care of Tiny Tim........DISABILITY! Lol y'all and I gotta go spread some Christmas cheer with some customers.

December 18, 2013 at 9:25 a.m.
caddy said...

Nailed it Maximus

December 18, 2013 at 9:29 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Caddy, what do "God's laws" have to do with our government? They are not connected.

And your 929 post again confirms the observation I made a few days ago; "great minds think alike".

December 18, 2013 at 9:29 a.m.
jackson1961 said...

Apparently Congress failing to make sure military death benefits for families of soldiers killed overseas would be paid out during the government shutdown wasn't a big enough disgrace for lawmakers on Capitol Hill. Here we are two months later and Democrats have blocked an amendment that would restore $6 billion in cuts to military retirement pensions over the next 10 years. Patriots out, union communists in.

December 18, 2013 at 9:33 a.m.
jackson1961 said...

The "State" can seize your assets to pay for care after you’re forced into Medicaid by Obamacare.

December 18, 2013 at 9:39 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Senate GOP fails in final bid to block military pension cuts in budget bill. But always plenty of $ for unemployment benefits, eh Lefties?

December 18, 2013 at 9:48 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Jackson, nice to pin all of the blame of the "6 billion in cuts to military retirement pensions" on the democrats. Remind me what party the author (Paul Ryan) of the budget deal belongs.

I guess I can pose the same question to PlainTruth.

December 18, 2013 at 10:02 a.m.
jackson1961 said...

Americans are among the most mobile people on earth, but ObamaCare may soon start freezing them in place. Millions are losing their health insurance policies and being forced onto the ObamaCare exchanges, where most plans only provide local medical coverage. As Americans realize they must pay for all non-emergency medical care when they leave their home county, their decisions may have a profound impact on the real-estate market, particularly the second home sector, and on the travel business.

December 18, 2013 at 10:14 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Gassy, look at the "bipartisan" vote on Sessions amendment. Also, remind me of what party Patty Murray (co-sponsor) belongs to.

December 18, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Look at my posts. I never said democrats weren't to blame or that republicans get all of the blame. I'm simply saying that republicans aren't innocent in this either. Besides, these cuts don't take effect until December 2015, so I would imagine there would be another vote or amendment before the cuts occur.

December 18, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

John Podesta, new White House "councilor" says "I was told, it represents the clearest sign to date of the administration’s interest in shifting the paradigm of Obama’s presidency through the forceful, unapologetic and occasionally provocative application of White House power. Podesta, whose official mandate includes enforcement of numerous executive orders on emissions and the environment, suggested as much when he spoke with me earlier this fall about Obama’s team. “They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress." Decent Dems should condemn this fool.

December 18, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

In reference to a comment made by John Podesta weeks ago to which he apologized to the orange crying faux nutcracker John Boehner; the Sandwich Board Prevaricator and Junior Yellow Journalist (aka PlainTruth) comes the demand that, ”Decent Dems should condemn this fool.”

Podesta’s Jonestown cult comment makes me like him even more now.

To pre-empt your next scandalous ‘current event report’, Dan Pfeiffer said, "What we're not for is negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest."

I like him too.

December 18, 2013 at 12:34 p.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

PT wrote "Senate GOP fails in final bid to block military pension cuts in budget bill. But always plenty of $ for unemployment benefits, eh Lefties?"

...and plenty of $ for their pay and benefits, eh ....who side are you on anyway?

December 18, 2013 at 12:39 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Plain Truth said "Senate GOP fails in final bid to block military pension cuts in budget bill."

Uhh, you do know that this bill was partialy brokered by Senator Paul Ryan, right? You do know that this bill was passed by the Republican controlled House, right? Of course you knew this....right?

December 18, 2013 at 12:54 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

And also Smokie, plenty of money for the two wars we are waging overseas.

December 18, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

diggity, you need to read posts above. Efforts to amend the bill to exclude military benefits was soundly defeated by the dems. Also Diggity, had you read before you barfed info, you would have seen that the bill was *co-sponsored by Patty Murray. Last I checked, she is a flaming leftist from WA.

December 18, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Sewer Rat says "Podesta’s Jonestown cult comment makes me like him even more now." I'm sure you do, Rat. You're as predictable as the morning movement. With similar output.

December 18, 2013 at 1:17 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

And also Smokie, plenty of money for the two wars we are waging overseas.

What two wars is that?

December 18, 2013 at 1:21 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^^ Gassy inadvertently read from an old Talking Points memo.

December 18, 2013 at 1:38 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Afghanistan and Iraq (Troops are gone, but funding for ongoing projects continues).

Not to mention, you have chickenhawks wanting to wage war on Iran.

December 18, 2013 at 1:41 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

PlainTruth, like how you shift from your pro-GOP cheerleading section to something irrelevant (Podesta) when called on it. You still do your "hate democrats" chest-thumping, yet you still won't acknowledge that a Republican wrote the bill in the first place. Just to be clear, without those cuts in military retirement in Ryan's bill, there is no need for a Sessions' amendment. You can skip around the truth of the matter, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth.

December 18, 2013 at 1:49 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

Afghanistan and Iraq (Troops are gone, but funding for ongoing projects continues).

So typical ... Right?

If funding is your criteria for “waging” then you still missed it .... try about 10 or 12.

December 18, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Gassy, and you skip around the partisan vote against the amendment. Now who's dancing? And BTW, I don't hate all dems….The Blue Dogs are fine. You don't seem like a Blue Dog, Gassy.

December 18, 2013 at 2:12 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

a Republican wrote the bill in the first place. Just to be clear, without those cuts in military retirement in Ryan's bill, there is no need for a Sessions' amendment. You can skip around the truth of the matter, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth

Yes “a” Republican and “a” Fleabagger wrote the bill. However when it came to passing the bill in the Senate “the” Republicans tried to correct the military pension issue but “the” Fleabaggers were having no part of it... Simple enough? ... reverse rotation on your spin?

December 18, 2013 at 2:13 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I'm not a Blue Dog, or a Green Dog, or a Red Dog. I'm not skipping around anything. I acknowledge it was a bipartisan bill. I acknowledge that it was a partisan vote against the amendment (though, I do think 1 democrat voted yea). Anything else? You are skipping around that Paul Ryan wrote the original bill and democrats and REPUBLICANS voted for that bill with the cuts to military benefits in it. So if it was a huge deal that needed a Republican amendment, why did republicans vote for it in the first place?

JT, did we wage a trillion dollar war on the other "10 or 12" you speak of?

December 18, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

JT, same question to you. Why didn't the Republicans have it fixed before they signed the original bill? There is no spin on my part. I think both parties are broken. Call them "Fleabaggers" or teabaggers or doo-doo balls or whatever, I won't necessarily disagree. However, for you to act as though Republicans are the do-gooders for the American people shows you don't pay attention.

December 18, 2013 at 2:25 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Gassy queries "So if it was a huge deal that needed a Republican amendment, why did republicans vote for it in the first place? *Because the R's have no effective leadership. There, I answered. No you answer why the Dems voted overwhelmingly against the amendment.

December 18, 2013 at 3:12 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I think they voted against the amendment because of what Sessions wanted to cut in place of the military retirees' cut. Again, the cut doesn't occur until December 2015 (and it will probably play out that it will be dangled like a carrot until the end to get people into a panic).

December 18, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

PlainTruth said...

John Podesta - “They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress."

Incomprehensible gibberish! A Fleabagger like Podesta should clearly self identify with the concepts behind that Jonestown cult as it was a murderous Communist mob... after all.

December 18, 2013 at 4:03 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

Caddy, what do "God's laws" have to do with our government? They are not connected.

**You don’t get out much ... do you?

December 18, 2013 at 4:03 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Hey Truth, take up your compaints with the author of the bill and the Republican led House. I do agree with you that "the R's have no effective leadership."

December 18, 2013 at 4:14 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

You are skipping around that Paul Ryan wrote the original bill

I wouldn’t think that I would normally need to confirm the obvious to another poster but in you case maybe so.... Yes he did.

and democrats and REPUBLICANS voted for that bill with the cuts to military benefits in it.

**I guess the fact that the House Republican leadership is curled up in the corner didn’t have anything to do with it.

So if it was a huge deal that needed a Republican amendment, why did republicans vote for it in the first place?

**62 didn’t but it was a foregone conclusion that it would pass so those voting for it felt no pressure to do otherwise.

JT, did we wage a trillion dollar war on the other "10 or 12" you speak of?

No we funded a trillion dollars on “two” wars and at least that much more on the others. So what’s your point if in fact you have one other than diversion.

December 18, 2013 at 4:34 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

JT, same question to you. Why didn't the Republicans have it fixed before they signed the original bill?

They wanted to avert the horribly bad P.R. from the MSM if they got anywhere near a budget showdown and possible government shutdown. The leadership is so easily rolled they recently roll over like a young pup wanting their belly rubbed. They would have push this vote no matter the details to just make it go away.

There is no spin on my part. I think both parties are broken. Call them "Fleabaggers" or teabaggers or doo-doo balls or whatever, I won't necessarily disagree.

So you’re one of those internet independents that seem to always agree with one side and not the other about 95% of the time? Of course in your estimation that 5% proves your neutrality... Right?

However, for you to act as though Republicans are the do-gooders for the American people shows you don't pay attention.

I don’t support do-gooders as they always screw the pooch.

December 18, 2013 at 4:49 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

If you like your Schadenfreude you can keep your Schadenfreude.

December 18, 2013 at 5:14 p.m.
rick1 said...

PT and Jt, you will fine this article very interesting.

http://shoebat.com/2013/12/17/bill-hillary-clinton-implicated/

December 18, 2013 at 6:57 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"They wanted to avert the horribly bad P.R. from the MSM if they got anywhere near a budget showdown and possible government shutdown. The leadership is so easily rolled they recently roll over like a young pup wanting their belly rubbed. They would have push this vote no matter the details to just make it go away."

It was a smart move if you ask me. The majority of Americans want the two sides to work together and let's face it, a repeat of the budget showdown from October would be disastrous for the GOP in November.

"So you’re one of those internet independents that seem to always agree with one side and not the other about 95% of the time? Of course in your estimation that 5% proves your neutrality... Right?"

Nope. It almost defies human nature to not take a side in every circumstance. I guess at the moment I disagree with the GOP a tad bit more than I do the Democrats.

"You don’t get out much ... do you?"

Plenty. I guess when you don't have a logical retort, you result to other tactics. But to insinuate that we are founded on "God's laws", is just an attempt to rewrite US history.

December 18, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.
rick1 said...

Gauss posted "I think they voted against the amendment because of what Sessions wanted to cut in place of the military retirees' cut."

The Daily Caller reported the following in regards to what Sen. Session wanted to cut:

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/18/senate-dems-block-amendment-to-restore-veteran-benefits-by-closing-illegal-immigrant-welfare-loophole/

December 18, 2013 at 7:54 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Rick1, everyone reported what Sessions wanted to cut. That's why I offered my opinion to PlainTruth on why democrats voted against Sessions' amendment. I think a modified Session amendment will eventually pass before these cuts occur in two years.

December 18, 2013 at 8:09 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Rick, very interesting piece indeed.

December 18, 2013 at 8:25 p.m.
rick1 said...

There is nothing to modify. Pass the damn amendment and stop fornicating our men and women of the military.

December 18, 2013 at 8:28 p.m.
Hunter_Bluff said...

If those on this board wish to lighten the tax burden quit funding our military industrial complex. Don't blame the poor. They've no power, they've no politicians in their pocket, radio hosts making arguments on their behalf, they've no lobbyist on their payroll. Make the generals and their enablers accountable for their wasteful spending. Build an elaborate brick outhouse in Afghanistan, then vaporize the outhouse in a blaze of high tech explosions. Really?

December 18, 2013 at 8:32 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

rick1, the "fornication of our men and women" hasn't begun yet. It wouldn't begin until Dec. 2015, but this thing will get passed eventually. GOP leaders surely see this defeat of the amendment as a partial success for the coming elections.

December 18, 2013 at 8:38 p.m.
yddem said...

rick1 cried "Pass the damn amendment and stop fornicating our men and women of the military."

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. No, chickie baby, the COLA reduction for military retirees under age 62 [yes, that's the big deal no-nothing's are screaming about] is not scheduled to take effect until 2016, and probably won't happen at all.

Oh, the humanity.

Bring it on, no truth.

December 18, 2013 at 10:35 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

You're not worth the keystrokes, yddamn

December 18, 2013 at 11:28 p.m.
Maximus said...

If you blame Congress for the many issues Americans are dealing with today you might as well be blaming Bush. No it is not Congress. It is the secular humanist class warfare welfare pimp Barry Obama. Someone should give Mr. Obama some accountability or maybe a copy of the U.S. Constitution for Christmas.

Oh and Clay, your silly and very predictable cartoons are boringly juvenile. Time to move on.....how about North Korea? You won't have to celebrate Christmas there.

December 18, 2013 at 11:57 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Maximus, you need the copy of the Constitution and a couple of US History books. You obviously have no clue on how our government works.

December 19, 2013 at 7:06 a.m.
rick1 said...

yddem and Gauss, believe it probably won't happen or will eventually get passed. Then why not sign the Sessions amendment now?

The reason Harry Reid doe not want to sign the amendment is because one he despises they military because for the most part the military votes Republican.

Second is it has already been reported that Boehner has told Pelosi he will work on amnesty next year. Reid is more concerned about getting votes. He does not want to take away the child tax credit illegals are now getting but he will screw over our men and women of the military on their benefits.

Harry Reid is a despicable human being.

December 19, 2013 at 7:22 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

So rick1, you think GOP lawmakers aren't concerned with getting votes? Gotcha.

Again, the same question I posed to PlainTruth and Jt. If the GOP is so pro-military, why did Ryan include the cuts in his budget? Why did many House and Senate republicans vote for the Ryan/Murray in the first place?

And you know why many didn't sign Sessions amendment. It's the same reason that Republicans wouldn't have signed the amendment if it was attached to something the GOP holds near and dear. They could discontinue the subsidies to oil companies and accomplish the same as discontinuing the tax credits, but I don't think many republicans would be on board.

December 19, 2013 at 7:34 a.m.
degage said...

gassy, You have a one track mind, two people drafted that budget and one was a progressive democrat. You keep hollering for compromise , so when you get it you blame only the republicans. Maybe you should get off your soap box.

December 19, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

But wait; why isn't Santa passing presents out to the welfare cases who are not pulling the sled? What about them?

What about the illegal aliens who get tax credits ahead of our retired military people whose cost of living raises got cut?

December 19, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

LadyGage: Gassy does like to go on.

December 19, 2013 at 9:56 a.m.
Maximus said...

Gaus I'm glad you agree that Barry The Welfare Reindeer is totally out of control and feels that he is immune to his oath or should I say lie to protect, defend, and obey the Constitution of the United States. All branches of the federal government are subject to and accountable to the Constitution and that is the bottom line. The two bit community organizer is a complete train wreck just like most of his supporters.

December 19, 2013 at 10:54 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

degage, two words: Reading Comprehension. You are attacking the Democrats (which I have no problem with you doing), yet turning the cheek to the GOP (which I do have a problem). Unless you are deliberately trying to be dishonest, then both parties deserve blame, not just one. I have stated numerous times that a democrat co-sponsored the bill and democrats voted in favor, yet you and PlainUnTruth continue to try to sweep under the rug that Ryan authored the bill and many Republicans signed it.

December 19, 2013 at 11:04 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

PT has swept nothing under the rug, gasbag. The R's are in shambles. What more can I say? You seem to be obsessed with this latest bill.

December 19, 2013 at 11:14 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with.” - Gov. Bobby Jindal Much truth

December 19, 2013 at 11:22 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Krauthammer: It Took Barbara Walters 5 Yrs to Realize Obama’s Not the Messiah? It Took Us 1 ½ hrs. That long, huh?

December 19, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
Maximus said...

Let's face it folks, until we get Barry The Class Warfare Punk out of office the economy and life is gonna suck for all of those healthy of mind and body foolish enough to look toward guvment for their success. Meanwhile Barry, Michelle, and the girls are off to Hawaii for an extended holiday traveling at guvment expense and living in one of his wealthy donors mansions. I'm sure we will see pics of Barry on the golf course soon. You suckers!

December 19, 2013 at noon
GaussianInteger said...

PT, I'm not obsessed with anything. I guess I'm just not as tolerant of hypocrisy, but you seem to practice it on a regular basis, so I am thinking that's why what I have said on this cartoon offends you.

December 19, 2013 at 1:54 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

not offended gassy. what hypocrisy do I practice?

December 19, 2013 at 2:18 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Pretty funny, PT..."IMPEACHMINT" (from the link you posted). But not likely. Whoever came up with that new Ben and Jerry's flavor obviously doesn't know anything about Ben and Jerry, two of the most progressively oriented, socially and environmentally conscious business owners in America. If B&J really had come up with something like that themselves they would have been more likely to have done it back when Bush was POTUS, with his picture on the carton, not Obama's.

But then, not that DINO Obama is actually a progressive worth defending. Only to you know-nothings who keep spouting the evils of socialism but in reality don't know a socialist from your a-hole.

December 19, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

And speaking of not knowing your own a-hole, it's funny to hear you keep calling yourself a moderate. Obviously you don't have a clue what moderate really means. If you were truly a moderate you would have something positive to say about the liberal stance at least ONCE in a while. But you are one of the most rabid liberal bashers on this forum. Dude, you are no moderate. You are just about as far right as they come. You are like the Bible-thumping con-man who calls himself a Christian but is the most un-Christ-like person anyone could meet. It's impossible to take anyone seriously who doesn't even have a handle on his own identity. You are either a hypocrite or just plain clueless.

December 19, 2013 at 2:33 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Roo, it was intended as a joke. No one, save you, took it seriously. Ben & Jerry's leftist leanings are well known. Impeachment is a looooong shot. But hell, he has 3 more years, so stand by.

December 19, 2013 at 2:34 p.m.

If anyone at any point thought Obama was a messianic figure, I feel sorry for you.

Anyone see that obnoxious "pajama boy" ad for Obamacare? That eunuch in those onesie pj's holding his cocoa with both hands is the poster boy for liberalism. That, and Michelle Obama's ad urging us to make Obamacare part of our holiday plans, is enough to make me ill.

December 19, 2013 at 2:44 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

zab, the pajama boy is a dandy.

December 19, 2013 at 2:51 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Hunter_Bluff said...

If those on this board wish to lighten the tax burden quit funding our military industrial complex.

Any rational person would think that terminating the funding of our military would be insane but I can understand you feeling otherwise.

Don't blame the poor. They've no power, they've no politicians in their pocket, radio hosts making arguments on their behalf, they've no lobbyist on their payroll.

They don’t need them as this country is very benevolent and freely provides for its “poor”. However there is a limited supply of “other people’s money” that you Fleabaggers can use to boost your self-righteous sense of compassion. Try giving some of your own money and effort sometime as Conservatives are more likely to do.

Make the generals and their enablers accountable for their wasteful spending. Build an elaborate brick outhouse in Afghanistan, then vaporize the outhouse in a blaze of high tech explosions. Really?

The military should not be immune to criticism for mismanagement. However explain to us your plan for withdrawal from that country. You have an item that costs too much to remove and bring back to this country, it is of a type that the terrorist can easily make use of to continue their fight against the Afghan government, and the current regime in Kabul can not protect the item from the terrorists .... what is you brilliant solution?

December 19, 2013 at 4 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Rickaroo said...

Only to you know-nothings who keep spouting the evils of socialism but in reality don't know a socialist from your a-hole.

What happened to the “no-nothings” as it was quite funny in an ignorant Fleabagger sort of way.

I’ll have to admit that I “in reality don't know a socialist from (my) a-hole”. Although I’m sure that you have a framed 8 X 10 picture of yours I have never viewed mine. I’m sure that if someone took a picture of it and showed it to me, my first thought would be “That’s got to be a Socialist Fleabagger”. I’m just saying ... O.K.?

December 19, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.
carlB said...

When we look at this cartoon the main thing that comes to mind is how Congress was lobbied to pass all of the unfair trade agreements without being aware or even thinking of the long range results. There are not many Economists in Congress or in the Senate and thevoters eere sold many false theories about how these free trade agreements would turn out.
Are there any doubts about why the effects of these trade agreements is put into a term called "the race to the bottom"?

December 19, 2013 at 6:38 p.m.
volsam said...

carlB, Two things, first thing is the ruling class in this country either have no idea about unintended consequences or they just don't care. The second thing is the unintended consequences come into play well after they leave office, therefore there is no penalty. Remember it's easy to spend somebody else's money when they are not held accountable. This is not a partisan issue, both sides of the isle are guilty.

December 19, 2013 at 7:41 p.m.
degage said...

No, Gassy, You are the one that kept saying Ryan's bill without mentioning the progressive that co sponsored it. My reading comprehension is just fine.

December 19, 2013 at 9 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Totally untrue. I was pointing out to the posters focusing on the democrats votes against the Sessions amendment and ignoring the fact that a republican drafted the budget and many republicans voted in favor of the bill. You are just reading what you feel substantiates your phony claim.

December 19, 2013 at 9:32 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

My post from 1034 am yesterday:

"Look at my posts. I never said democrats weren't to blame or that republicans get all of the blame. I'm simply saying that republicans aren't innocent in this either. Besides, these cuts don't take effect until December 2015, so I would imagine there would be another vote or amendment before the cuts occur."

My 219 pm post from yesterday:

"I'm not a Blue Dog, or a Green Dog, or a Red Dog. I'm not skipping around anything. I acknowledge it was a bipartisan bill. I acknowledge that it was a partisan vote against the amendment (though, I do think 1 democrat voted yea). Anything else?"

My 225 pm post from yesterday:

"JT, same question to you. Why didn't the Republicans have it fixed before they signed the original bill? There is no spin on my part. I think both parties are broken. Call them "Fleabaggers" or teabaggers or doo-doo balls or whatever, I won't necessarily disagree."

I've done enough work to prove you wrong, I'll let you reread my other posts on your own.

December 19, 2013 at 9:40 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

The Obama administration announces it will potentially allow hundreds of thousands of people to sign up for "catastrophic" coverage plans, a move the insurance industry claims will cause "tremendous instability." But wait! Ain't this the same "catastrophic" coverage the administration called cut-rate and inferior? Hmmm? Just more from the ineptocracy.

December 19, 2013 at 9:52 p.m.
fairmon said...

Quit complaining and pull the wagon! At some point some of those riding will have to walk? What does this administration do well? Talk, talk, talk. What does congress do well? Squawk, squawk and squawk like a gaggle of geese.

December 19, 2013 at 11:06 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

I've done enough work to prove you wrong, I'll let you reread my other posts on your own.

Well sh!t!! Let’s just drive this all the way in the ground. Here is the original post that started it all.

jackson1961 said...

Apparently Congress failing to make sure military death benefits for families of soldiers killed overseas would be paid out during the government shutdown wasn't a big enough disgrace for lawmakers on Capitol Hill. Here we are two months later and Democrats have blocked an amendment that would restore $6 billion in cuts to military retirement pensions over the next 10 years.

He does not insinuate any blame for the original bill but only for the attempt to correct it. In fact his first sentence blames Congress “in toto” for an earlier affront to veterans. Then you make the mandatory smart-a^^ Fleabagger retort.

GaussianInteger said...

Jackson, nice to pin all of the blame of the "6 billion in cuts to military retirement pensions" on the democrats. Remind me what party the author (Paul Ryan) of the budget deal belongs.

Here you are posting a strawman in willfully misreading the first post. Then you repeat the same tactic you accused him of engaging in, only later to say you did not.

PlainTruth said...

Gassy, look at the "bipartisan" vote on Sessions amendment. Also, remind me of what party Patty Murray (co-sponsor) belongs to.

Then this poster mocks your disingenuous posting which only sets off another of your patented self-righteous spin sessions.

GaussianInteger said...

Look at my posts. I never said democrats weren't to blame or that republicans get all of the blame. I'm simply saying that republicans aren't innocent in this either.

Nothing the others didn’t say ... Right?

December 19, 2013 at 11:07 p.m.
fairmon said...

The economy must be pretty good. Go shopping, notice how many people are fat and sloppily dressed. They are spending money on those credit cards like crazy. The roads are crowded and those restaurants are full. 7 of 10 can't tell you who the VP is or the senate majority leader. But, they know who Santa Claus is and that he is up north in D.C.

December 19, 2013 at 11:20 p.m.
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