published Friday, August 15th, 2014

Community Relations

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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How about a cartoon showing the utter stupidity of looting, robbing, destroying businesses, hurting innocent people, and setting things on fire in your own community?

August 15, 2014 at 12:07 a.m.
alprova said...

Because perhaps those things are not happening here in our communities?

You love living in a fantasy world. I guess in that fantasy world, you want plenty of black people to blame for such goings on in your community.

I'm sure you're going to have lots of fun demonstrating just how welcoming you are of black people in your community.

August 15, 2014 at 12:14 a.m.

Huh? I'm referring to what's going on in Missouri.

Once again you speak from ignorance.

The neighborhood I live in has both black and white families in it. I don't see that happening here.

August 15, 2014 at 12:18 a.m.
ibshame said...

Great Cartoon. As usual Mr Bennett gets it right!!!

August 15, 2014 at 12:28 a.m.
alprova said...

Z-man, you opined that the officer in Ferguson, Missouri might have been black.

A black officer killing a black man would not draw the kind of ire that has ensued from both blacks and whites in Ferguson.

I'm willing to bet my right arm that officer, once identified, will be lily white.

And regardless of any and all offered scenarios, shooting a fleeing unarmed man 35 feet from the police car, EIGHT times, is inexcusable.

If Brown was actually attempting to give up and was lowering himself to the ground, as several witnesses have attested to, then murder has occurred.

I'm going to take a different approach on this one, as well as what has been occurring here in Chattanooga.

It is understandable why blacks are under a bit more scrutiny at the present time, but what should be first and foremost on the minds of every officer when they confront a black man on the street, is that every person deserves to be considered an individual FIRST, and a black man second.

Not every black man walking down a street or sauntering in a housing project, is necessarily up to no good.

Mishandled, a simple confrontation to determine what, if anything someone is up to by an inquisitive officer of the law, can get completely out of hand, like it appears to have happened in Ferguson, Missouri.

If the details are correct, Michael Brown was where he was in Ferguson, to check out a college he was slated to attend. Michael Brown was not the sort of young man to get into a confrontation with police.

Yet, this college bound man is now dead and his mother deserves answers as to how and why this happened.

Anyone who cannot understand such simple things, has a screw loose.

Right is right and wrong will always be wrong.

And something went horribly wrong the other night.

August 15, 2014 at 12:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Speak slowly to him, Zab. He's stupid as a wagon load of manure.

August 15, 2014 at 12:30 a.m.
Ki said...

America treats its black citizens no better than Palestinians are treated in Gaza. They just haven't brought out the really big, heavy duty artillery yet. And since they can't get at the big guy in the white house it appears they tend to take all their hatred out on the closest thing that more closely resembles him. Not only have this president received more death threats than any sitting president ever elected, but police brutality, shootings and killings of black males, mostly young, have been on the increase greatly too around the nation,

In the words of the late Marvin Gaye:

"What's Going On?! What's Going On?!"

August 15, 2014 at 12:31 a.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Huh? I'm referring to what's going on in Missouri."

You did not make that clear. Your words were "in your own community." Where is Missouri in that sentence?

"Once again you speak from ignorance."

I haven't spoken a word. And you call me ignorant?

"The neighborhood I live in has both black and white families in it. I don't see that happening here."

Ah...so again, I ask why you chose the wording you used in your sentence. "Your own community" infers here, where we live.

It was YOUR mistake. Not mine.

August 15, 2014 at 12:34 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the little whiner wrote: "Speak slowly to him, Zab. He's stupid as a wagon load of manure."

I love it when you wade in on crap before you think.

Are people speaking who communicate in this forum?

And you have the audacity to call me stupid?

You can't make this stuff up. How many more feet will wind up in their mouths before the night is over?

And you, poor Jackie, are in the midst of real stupidity every time you post here lately.

You be sure to let me know when you need some more crayons to write with. I wouldn't want you to run out of them.

August 15, 2014 at 12:37 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

You nailed it, Clay, absolutely nailed it. Hands Up! Don't Shoot!

August 15, 2014 at 12:37 a.m.
Ki said...

da zabbler said: the neighborhood I live in has both black and white families

Many neighborhoods throughout america are physically intergrated that way, zab. Yet they remain socially, psychology and emotionally segregated and are just as likely to call cops on a longtime black neighbor they don't immediately recognize and report him/her as a *suspicious * stranger in the neighborhood than they would a white person who actually is a stranger in the community. Even when that black person has lived in the community much longer than they have.

That's why I and many others came to cringe at the term "take back your neighborhood" because for some it inferred they owned the community personally where they formed social, class and racial cliques, and anyone who didn't fit their personal perception of who belonged they used police and other means to harass them out.

August 15, 2014 at 12:46 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says "Your own community" infers (sic) here, where we live."

August 15, 2014 at 12:46 a.m.
alprova said...

Perhaps you need to consult a dictionary Jackie, before you attempt to correct someone else. That way, you don't announce yourself as an uneducated moron.

"Infers" is indeed a viable word, as used, and you once again fired up your pathetic keyboard without doing a minimal amount of research to determine this first.

I believe this is the second time you have attempted this about my use of that word.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/infers

"Infer" and "imply" are equally interchangeable.

August 15, 2014 at 12:53 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

No, it is improperly used. I infer, you imply From your link, imply, infer - A speaker or writer implies, a hearer or reader infers; not real complicated, moron

August 15, 2014 at 12:57 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Must be that N. GA hillbilly education.

August 15, 2014 at 12:58 a.m.
ibshame said...

Back in April a rancher in Nevada decided he was not going to pay the US govt grazing fees. He was surrounded with "supporters" who showed up with their guns aimed at the local police force. Not one time were any of those " supporters" arrested nor were they shot at or tear gassed. If ever there was a threat to law and order those so-called "supporters" represented it. Contrast the reaction by the police in Ferguson, Mo to a crowd of people that are peacefully protesting( without guns aimed at the police as they were in Nevada) but are met with a militarized police force throwing tear gas and shooting rubber bullets.

The really sad part is the fact so many Congressional right wing nut jobs rushed to defend this rancher and even his so-called "supporters" with their guns aimed at the police until the POS started making his comments about how slavery was a good thing. A month after the so-called stand off ended two of the "supporters" went on a killing rampage.

August 15, 2014 at 1:02 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, you poor pathetic whiner, you are the last person who should be correcting others, about anything.

You're not qualified, number one, and it's just more of your utter rude persona bleeding from every one of your sour smelling pores.

I like the word, and I'll use it any way I so desire, over and above any objection you may have about it.

Infer form that whatever floats your toy boat.

August 15, 2014 at 1:06 a.m.
alprova said...

Thankfully, the Missouri State Patrol is in charge now.

August 15, 2014 at 1:07 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo says "You're not qualified, number one, and it's just more of your utter rude persona bleeding from every one of your sour smelling pores." you maliciously libel and flame me for months, then have the sac to say I'm rude? That's rich.

August 15, 2014 at 1:11 a.m.
alprova said...

I imagine tears flowing down your cheeks as you type that.

You forget all the rudeness you have shown me since day one.

You consider yourself totally blameless in all that has happened.

You have all kinds of problems, the worst being your lack of self-accountability.

You CONFESSED. You lied in that CONFESSION. You can't blame anyone but yourself for anything that happened in this forum.

You are so in denial of your own complicity in any libel or flaming that you received.

Your stupidity seems to never end. You're the only person attempting to keep this entire mess alive with your incessant whining.

WHAT THE ^&*(^ IS WRONG WITH YOU?

August 15, 2014 at 1:19 a.m.
fairmon said...

Is a Taser illegal in Missouri? The situation described so far suggest a Taser may have been an effective alternative. It is difficult to understand how looting and destroying of businesses, some minority owned, are considered support for the victim and family. The governor of Missouri should assure that a complete and unbiased investigation occurs including encouraging the DOJ to be in a lead position.

The delay in an investigation and releasing of any and all facts contribute to speculation and people reaching conclusions that they will continue to hold regardless of subsequent facts. It also enables people like Al Sharpton to use the situation for personal and political purposes. The family deserves honest answers without having to demand or request them. There has been nothing so far that would justify the police reaction and thus far speculation suggest there was a criminal act regardless of the officers race.

Would the nation wide publicity and reaction of looting and destruction have been the same if the victim were white? There have been similar events with white victims but those are not controversial enough for the media.

Too many members of the law enforcement community don't have the mental capacity to deal with the increased challenges of their profession. They are well armed but ill prepared.

August 15, 2014 at 5:32 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Would the nation wide publicity and reaction of looting and destruction have been the same if the victim were white? There have been similar events with white victims but those are not controversial enough for the media."

After last night's peaceful night with the Missouri State Patrol in charge, it's evident that the way the protests were met by authorities had everything to do with how things all turned out.

Rubber bullets and tear gas was the wrong way to deal with protestors. Allowing people to express their First Amendment rights, peacefully and without resistance is a far better choice.

Some white people always ask the question, "If a white person were gunned down the same way, would there be looting and rioting?"

Where are all these similar "white" cases? When was the last time a white unarmed youth was gunned down in front of witnesses, and shot shot eight times?

I've racked my brain and I don't recall any such cases. It's always black people who are involved in such cases. It's got to stop. Police need to be held accountable for excessive use of force on any citizen.

When 80 year old women are being yanked out of their cars, thrown to the ground, and treated like a criminal who just robbed a convenience store at gunpoint, because they are questioning an officer's intentions, something has gone horribly wrong in this nation. In the year 2014, such behavior by police is always justified.

An officer doing the same thing 40 years ago would have been dismissed and banned from the profession.

I truly believe that there are people who join the profession to have the legal means to mistreat their fellow humans. In Ferguson, Missouri, it appears that the entire police department is in need of a review of all it's personnel.

It's very likely to happen at the expense of the death of Michael Brown.

August 15, 2014 at 7:25 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z is just showing his colors again. It is now clear to all where he stands on race if it was not before. No question about his racism. Watch him toss out the accusation I'm "playing the race card."

The cops were shooting rubber bullets, stun grenades and tear gas at peaceful demonstrators exercising a constitutional right to assemble in public and protest the government, arresting newspaper reporters and taking down cameras, driving around in armored cars like they were military. It looked all the world like something out of Palestine, not America. We do not need it. Except maybe as just dessert, against the T-partay? Perhaps then he would get the idea.

b-t-w, concerning the T-partay, I see connie is in the letters to the editor in the newspaper this morning.

August 15, 2014 at 7:50 a.m.
alprova said...

I wonder how many times Z-man will type the words that 'Liberals are the racists' and that he has no prejudices whatsoever when it comes to black people.

August 15, 2014 at 8:01 a.m.
LibDem said...

zableedofisterix, Your first comment makes a weird sort of sense. No doubt the blacks of that community have legitimate complaints, but what they're doing now is proving that the police are the only line between their community and chaos.

August 15, 2014 at 8:09 a.m.
AgentX said...

That is not true, Clay. You are trying to fuel the fire even more, as do Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. It is a terrible thing to lose a child for any reason. Using it as an excuse to loot businesses and destroy your own community shows a complete lack of intelligence on their part. Act like a crazy wild animal, expect to be treated like one. Act like a civil human being, also expect to be treated like one. That's why your cartoon is so ignorant and offensive. But that's what you want, isn't it?

August 15, 2014 at 8:13 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says "You are so in denial of your own complicity in any libel or flaming that you received." Ah ha, a confession of sorts.

August 15, 2014 at 8:30 a.m.
alprova said...

It's easy to spot the bigots when comments are left in this forum.

While some are focused on the young man whose death sparked the protests, the bigots are only focused on the protesters, the black leaders, and what has happened AFTER Michael Brown was killed.

Not an ounce of concern for the family of Michael Brown. Just reviews of the "looting and destruction."

Could some of you be any more transparent?

August 15, 2014 at 8:36 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said.. Allowing people to express their First Amendment rights, peacefully and without resistance is a far better choice.

I agree 100% and it appears in this case to be very much needed. However, destroying property and stealing is not a first amendment right. In fact it detracts from the real issue and what should be the emphasis of the protest which should not be black only. Anyone living in that area should be concerned, upset and protesting in every peaceful way possible.

August 15, 2014 at 9:14 a.m.
Ki said...

Very well said, alprova. Any other response is unnecessary. You have a more profound grasp of the matter others pretend not to understand or ignore.

To fairmon's 5:32 a.m. post: *would nationwide publicity of looting and destruction be the same if the victim were White?"

First and foremost the looting and destruction are not nationwide. The right to assemble and peacefully protest (hold vigils) are.

The reason these tragedies touch more a deep cord in blacks than whites around the nation is because where it's uncommon and a rarity for a white person to be(although whites have joined in the protests and vigils with families and others killed by police) stopped WWW (walking while white) by police and brutally assaulted or killed it's become a common occurrence and a national tragedy for blacks in america, even locally, to have experienced being stopped, harassed and sometimes even brutally assaulted, cussed at by police for going about daily activities whites take for granted. From the average working black, to the black college student to the black soldier home on leave to visit family. They all have a story to tell about being stopped for no other reason then the color of their skin or WWB (walking while black) in America.

August 15, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.
ibshame said...

In any situation when the police become the criminals, the reaction by some of the protestors is to be expected.

August 15, 2014 at 9:24 a.m.
Maximus said...

Clay The Lower Alabama Traumatized Military Brat is as boringly predictable as a Hillary Clinton lie. On any issue just lean left. Global warming, the right to choose, gay rights, gun rights, pro pot, anti-Israel, now police brutality. How about common sense for a change? Liberals are so stuck in their radical leftist outdated 60's ideology that they don't think any more.

If you go with the sad but true stats regarding black males and crime I have to side with the St. Louis cop until the hard evidence proves things different. Ferguson, MO is a Democrat neighborhood which if like most inner city areas even Chattanooga, there is a LOT of crime and gun fire at night. Funny thing about Democrats, they are very violent people. Hmmm.

August 15, 2014 at 9:24 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki, assuming what you say is true...why would cops be guilty of that? Black cops included.

August 15, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
ibshame said...

Only a REAL POS would side with that POS cop who killed an UNHARMED kid with his hands in the air screaming don't shoot,

August 15, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
Maximus said...

I know already, black male criminals are victims so are black rappers that spew trash and violence against women from their microphones. Lol!

August 15, 2014 at 9:27 a.m.
Ki said...

Maxine, if Clay is all that you describe what does it say about you who can't help but respond with one negative personal insulting post after another towards him?

August 15, 2014 at 9:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

ibeshamed: were you there?

August 15, 2014 at 9:35 a.m.
Ki said...

jackD said: ki assuming what you say is true...why would cops be guilty of that? Black cops included.

As one local cop once put it when asked: "Because we can!

Also, lack of accountability and the knowledge they're least likely to be held personally responsible. As has happened even locally, a citizen who even remotely thought of filing a complaint could expect to find themselves target for harassment and being stalked.

Black cops often racial profile fellow black citizens too. Usually they're trying to fit in, are expected to be team players or are just more likely to follow orders. Many black males, especially young ones, will tell you they're often treated no better by black cops than white ones. At times they've even been treated more unfairly by black cops trying to fit in. Especially when the white cop is above them in rank. Black cops are also likely to be used to cover for and protect the white cop who crosses over the line.

Remember, black slave drivers and black overseers sometimes used on slave plantations were known to be just as brutal as the white ones.Although they themselves were still held as slaves.

August 15, 2014 at 9:46 a.m.
ibshame said...

Jack Dennis what do YOU think is the answer to that question? Why don't you share some of your one line wisdom this morning? What would someone like you offer as an excuse to the mother of Michael Brown? Would you say he should not have been walking down the street? Would you say when he turned around with his hands in the air screaming don't shoot, he didn't scream loud enough? You and the rest of these nut jobs sit around on your dumba$$es all day long with all of your protests about how much the govt tries to interfere in people's lives., you cheer for a POS like Bundy in Nevada when he pulls his guns out along with his "supporters" and they actually threaten to open fire on the police but an UNHARMED kid is somehow a criminal because he has been illegally stopped by the police when all he is doing is walking down the street.

You and those like Z fister and some others are the reason this country is so divided. You have NEVER been able to accept the fact the majority of this country REJECTED two White candidates for President of the United States so you cloak your racism in protests about any policy President Obama supports. Then when something happens like in Ferguson, you try to blame the UNHARMED kid because since he's Black he probably had done something wrong . That POS cop MURDERED that kid and more likely than not like another POS Zimmerman, he will probably walk away without any charges.

August 15, 2014 at 9:47 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

What's that matter Jack? Several witnesses have all corroborated what ibshame posted. I guess since they were black, the story can't be believed? Conservatives had no problem with Bundy and backers ready to "defend" their perceived rights in Nevada. Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

August 15, 2014 at 9:48 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ki, Clay is very predictable with his opinions. Like most Democrats he sees only one side...LEFT.

Again, as for Ferguson, MO and the shooting, a logical question to ask is....why are most inner city zip codes, Chattanooga and Nashville included, predominantly Democrat and like Chicago...filled with black on black crime? Too many EBT cards and baby mama's w/o husbands? Inquiring minds want to know. I'm sure the words disenfranchisement, racism, and victim will be used so you can't use those. Maybe we need to re-distribute more money to the Democrat zip codes. Yea that's the ticket!

August 15, 2014 at 9:58 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ki, are you a fan of Weezy and Rick Ross? Man they are such gentlemen and sooooo complementary of black biatches! "Every Day I'm Hustling" and "Boxed Chevy" are two of my favs. Their "poetry" speaks of guns and being so "hood". They like rapping about killing people also. Very good example for young black males don't ya think?

August 15, 2014 at 10:03 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

gassy, ever the jump to conclusioner. the cop may be an a-hole and murderer for all I know. He may also be innocent. If he's guilty, hang his ass. Why are you so quick to render judgement when all the facts are not in? Typical leftist reaction.

August 15, 2014 at 10:06 a.m.
ibshame said...

Maximus you just need to STHU. You with your fake a$$ don't have a clue. Stick to your fantasy world of wealth and fame because the REAL world is something you know NOTHING about. IF you were a BLACK man, you would be the SUPREME example of an UNCLE TOM.

August 15, 2014 at 10:07 a.m.
Maximus said...

I'm just glad that as a black man, I live in a safe, upscale, gated community in a Republican zip code. You folks can have the artsy fartsy, "diverse", bohemian, Democrat welfare based Hamilton County just don't take a walk at night you might get caught in the Democrat gang cross fire.

August 15, 2014 at 10:07 a.m.
ibshame said...

Maximus, the nurse in your ward just sent the orderlies to look for you, it's time for the meds you take to control your fantasies.

August 15, 2014 at 10:11 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hey libshamed! When have I tried to blame the unharmed (sic) kid? If the cop is guilty, he should pay the price. You lefty loons always ready to jump to conclusions. Again, were you there?

August 15, 2014 at 10:11 a.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

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You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on.

August 15, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth is in rare form today.

August 15, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
ibshame said...

Jack Dennis IF the cop is guilty? The kid has no weapon, is running away from the cop, not running toward him, the cop is chasing the kid, firing at him, hits the kid in the back with one of the bullets , the kid stops , puts his hands(BOTH hands) in the air, starts screaming don't shoot, turns around and is shot down like an animal. This is the EYEWITNESS account of SEVERAL WITNESSES and you still think there is something not known that will make what this POS cop did acceptable or exonerate him? Don't worry this A$$hole will probably walk if he is ever brought to trial because there is sure to be another a$$hole(s) on the jury who will not convict him of murder regardless of the facts.

August 15, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Shamed, you're reaching a boil prematurely. IF what you say is true, I'm on record as saying the cop should swing. OK? Do you think he should be denied due process?

August 15, 2014 at 10:26 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy says "Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop." I must have missed some posts

August 15, 2014 at 10:29 a.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

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You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on

August 15, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on."

Oh the humanity.

Connie is tracking you on his radar screen.

You're in trouble now, GaussianInteger!!

August 15, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

As of early Friday morning, no violent clashes were reported after hundreds of protesters gathered and marched near the flashpoint where riots and civil unrest have unfolded here in recent days. Why do I think this will disappoint the lefties on this board?

August 15, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ibshame....the truth hurts. Urban Democrat neighborhoods where millions in tax payer entitlements are spent every year have the highest violent crime rates in the U.S. If you live in one of those neighborhoods don't depend on guvment for a solution. Depend on YOURSELF to work your way to a Republican zip code!

August 15, 2014 at 10:42 a.m.
LibDem said...

ibshame, The eyewitness quoted in the US News report I read was a friend of the victim. We need accounts from people who have no vested interest in chaos. I'm sorry but the assumption that the police lie is not good enough for a conviction at this point.

August 15, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

LibDem....there you go...invoking common sense. shame, shame.

August 15, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, you're such a moron.

The confrantational cops caused the violence, and the mere fact that the Missouri Highway Patrol assumed responsibility for the entire mess, and the way that they handled the situation, the protesters had no need to react violently.

The only people disappointed by any lack of violence would be you fine bigoted Republican cheerleaders, who now have nothing to bash black people for.

August 15, 2014 at 10:45 a.m.
ibshame said...

For the record, the reason the protestors in Ferguson calmed down is because the militarized police were told to stand down. They were replaced with the State police who treated the protestors as HUMAN BEINGS rather than as animals who had to be controlled with tear gas and rubber bullets. I for one am more than happy about the calm restored to Ferguson and only hope it will continue now that they know the name of the POS who murdered an UNARMED kid.

August 15, 2014 at 10:47 a.m.
LibDem said...

"...the POS who murdered an UNARMED kid." That's the way to calm down the crowd. They should have posters.

August 15, 2014 at 10:53 a.m.
ibshame said...

LibDEm, if you go to the Lawrence O'Donnell site on MSNBC you will find the EYEWITNESS! Account of a young woman last night by the name of Tracy Mitchell. She did not know Michael Brown and there are others that do not include the guy who was walking with Michael Brown. They all tell the same story. Here is the bottom line, the moment Michael Brown raised BOTH his Hands n the air and screamed don't shoot, that POS cop had no right to open fire on him. PERIOD.

August 15, 2014 at 10:56 a.m.
LibDem said...

I notice a curious element in this exchange. Those who are most opposed to "profiling" are most willing to condemn any and all policemen.

August 15, 2014 at 11 a.m.
Maximus said...

The Democrat party has done a lot of harm to black America no question about it. Obama like the Democrats before him has kept them on the welfare plantation.

August 15, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, to be called a moron by you is downright funny. Ibeshamed, I always turn to Lawrence O'Donnell for a balanced account. Lol

August 15, 2014 at 11:09 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on"

I told you last night, I don't give a sh!t what you do. As a matter of fact this was my last response to you in the Robin Williams cartoon:

GaussianInteger said... I don't give a sh!t what you post scumbag. Am I supposed to be frightened of something you might post? I have never once lied on this forum. You have lied multiple times today. You are too coward to admit. You are attempting to project your lying tendencies on other people. So post away. It only displays your dishonesty to everyone else on this forum. Of course, they all know anyways. It's only a surprise to you. But when you have a compulsive liar such as yourself, it's natural for you to start believing your lies are reality.

August 14, 2014 at 10:02 p.m. permalink

August 15, 2014 at 11:12 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Two reporters were arrested for no reason and released less than an hour later, without being charged. A news crew was targeted with tear gas. That should tell you the Ferguson police (I think it's County police) are not being straight with the public.

August 15, 2014 at 11:15 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Alpo, to be called a moron by you is downright funny."

It is? Then I'll bet you have a good old belly laugh every time you fart.

August 15, 2014 at 11:19 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Maxipad, how are we supposed to believe that one can obtain wealth from working at the Taco Bell? I know they aren't paying you that much in overtime. Of course, now customers know why it takes so long when you are working the drive-thru window. Instead of taking customer's orders and giving them their food, you are posting here boasting about your imaginary wealth.

August 15, 2014 at 11:20 a.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

=============================

You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on.

August 15, 2014 at 11:20 a.m.
LibDem said...

ibshame. I visited MSNBC as you suggested (not a site I ever visited). Two witnesses are mentioned, I believe. You mentioned "OTHERS" but that was your eyewitness version of the MSNBC report (ha). At this point, I can see no possibility of a jury conviction of the officer - only a conviction by public opinion.

August 15, 2014 at 11:23 a.m.
ibshame said...

LibDem there are at least three other witnesses to what happened. The young lady I mentioned was interviewed by O'Donnell last night. She did not know Michael Brown. She was in a car just feet away from where the cop was and saw the whole thing from start to finish. I have no doubt this cop is going to walk regardless of the FACTS.

August 15, 2014 at 11:29 a.m.
Maximus said...

Gaus....many hourly wage workers both in fast food and Wal Mart have worked their way into good paying management positions and even franchise ownership. The fundamentals for mastering your own destiny and working to create an independent successful life have not changed. Our problem, which many Democrats and Obama support is that many, especially black folk in the U.S. have bought into the campaign slogans of victim hood and entitlement that get Democrat ruling class elitists like Hillary and Barry elected. Sad for those that live in high crime Democrat neighborhoods where the highlight of the month is when the welfare, EBT cards, etc. come in. True that.

August 15, 2014 at 11:37 a.m.
Maximus said...

Lord, I hope one of our fine Chatt cops doesn't shoot one of our black or Mexican gang members tonight! The angry Democrats will be turning cars over and looting Starbucks! Lol!

August 15, 2014 at 11:40 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ok, like Barry The Welfare Pimp, I'm off to my Republican club to play golf on this beautiful day to play golf, smoke cigars, and have a few beers with my fellow 1%ers.

I wonder what the poor people are doing? It sucks to be a Democrat! :)

August 15, 2014 at 11:43 a.m.

Look at the liberal frothing at the mouth over this!! LOL

Lawrence O'Donnel LOL Might as well be Rosie O'Donnel

ibshame, who are you to tell people to "STFU"?

You libs, inq, always play the race card. You are the racists.

The only racist thing ever uttered on this forum, that I've seen, is ibshame's constant racial slur, "Uncle Tom" tossed at black Americans who are not Democrats.

inq, you're transparent. You toss out the race card at an conservative whenever a topic comes up that involves race. It's knee jerk, and you're a jerk.

Democrats were the segregationists, the slave holders, the racist, the KKK. You stood against the civil rights act. Then comes your insane great society and the war on poverty. And now you fight tooth and nail to keep black Americans on your dependency plantation. You are sickening.

August 15, 2014 at 11:46 a.m.
ibshame said...

Must be lunch time at the bend for the patients. Maxi has to get there to be sure he gets his favorite flavor of jello. That's his reward when he takes his meds.

August 15, 2014 at 11:48 a.m.

Where are the nationwide protests against drive by shootings and the innocent victims, here, and in other cities? Chaos is what you like, so you can gain from it. Opportunists is what you are.

August 15, 2014 at 11:49 a.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister I will say again and again you must have me confused with someone who gives a rat's A$$ what an imbecile like you has to say. I suspected all along you were an ignorant inbred but it's no longer a suspicion, it's fact. Now go take your ignorant dribble and address someone who gives an imbecile like you the belief you have something worth saying . BTW Sowell, Williams and Thomas are still the Uncle Toms I wouldn't pour a bucket of p!ss on if they were on fire just so you know. Now start your mad dog foaming. LOL

August 15, 2014 at 11:56 a.m.
Maximus said...

Oh and finally, I guess the post about black thug gangster rappers shut Ki down. Shorty don't bez like dat yo!

Sliced pineapples. Keepin my lady in Louis V dog.

August 15, 2014 at 11:57 a.m.

The disparity between the poor and wealthy has gotten far worse under BO,look at Chicago.

How does BO and both Houses allowing "dreamers" to flood this country help with the unemployment and suffering in the "black community"?

Guess BO has given up on the "black community" and is now importing new people to add to the Democrat Party plantation.

August 15, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.

ibshame, you're truly a racist coward. WOW! could you be more blunt about it? Your anger toward blacks who don't jump when you crack your liberal whip is frightening. Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Condi Rice and Ben Carson all have overcome racism and humble beginnings, and they're all better than you are, and have done more for the "black community" than you have, you white, pajama boy race card tosser.

August 15, 2014 at 12:10 p.m.
alprova said...

I'm surprised no one has dumped the latest on this case.

It's looking like the Ferguson Police Department is either clearing an officer's name, or they have concocted the most elaborate cover-up in history.

It seems the story now is that Michael Brown forcibly stole a box of cigars from a store, just prior to his encounter with Officer Darren Wilson.

The evidence looks real.

Two questions though...

What happened to the cigars? and;

Was Michael Brown shot in his back?

August 15, 2014 at 12:13 p.m.

Libs and their lynch mob mentality. LOL

August 15, 2014 at 12:17 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Condi Rice and Ben Carson all have overcome racism and humble beginnings, and they're all better than you are, and have done more for the "black community" than you have, you white, pajama boy race card tosser."

You really need to research what you type. Most of those you claim to worship grew up in advantaged homes.

Further, you're not going to have to work very hard to find an average black person who would ever agree with you that any of thse above men have done a thing for the black community, but to look down their noses at them.

August 15, 2014 at 12:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Yes, Alpy. Let's just automatically assume it is an elaborate cover-up. What a lying ass you are.

August 15, 2014 at 12:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IBShamed: Anyone admitting to following Lawrence O'Donnell should never make cracks about Limbaugh or Levin. Are you insane, man?

August 15, 2014 at 12:23 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo. All lies 24/7, 365.

August 15, 2014 at 12:26 p.m.

Just saw a link to cbs on Drudge, showing Brown on camera slapping around a store employee as he was stealing some cigars.. Seems like an upstanding citizen LOL

August 15, 2014 at 12:34 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "The disparity between the poor and wealthy has gotten far worse under BO,look at Chicago."

But of course. The resident has taken money from all our pockets and given it to the wealthy, right?

"How does BO and both Houses allowing "dreamers" to flood this country help with the unemployment and suffering in the "black community"?"

The dreamers will be happy to take jobs that spoiled Americans find to hard to do or beneath thier dignity.

In the meantime, let the lazy eat beans and fart themselves to death.

"Guess BO has given up on the "black community" and is now importing new people to add to the Democrat Party plantation."

Eventually. Republicans would do the same thing if they could figure out how to import people predisposed to supporting them. Too bad that people with wealth like it where they are.

August 15, 2014 at 11:59 a.m. permalink

August 15, 2014 at 12:37 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

He couldn't stand it and it took a while but I called it right, ole z-fister sez, "You libs, inq, always play the race card. You are the racists."

A very predictable person, that z-fister.

August 15, 2014 at 12:38 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Just saw a link to cbs on Drudge, showing Brown on camera slapping around a store employee as he was stealing some cigars.. Seems like an upstanding citizen LOL"

You need to work the word "allegedly" into your vocabulary.

I'm inclined to agree that it is him, after reading all the police reports, but I have tow questions that need answered first.

What happened to the cigars?

Was Michael Brown shot in his back?

August 15, 2014 at 12:42 p.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister knew you would come back with that bullsh!t that was released by that chief in Ferguson. Guess what? it's already been debunked by a citizen in the crowd with the pictures to prove it. Michael Brown had on Tennis Shoes when he was shot not sandals. That was not Michael Brown on that video. Instead it took the Ferguson police dept 5 days to concoct this story about Brown being involved in a robbery. It's already been debunked with video taken by the WITNESSES. Knew they would try to come up with some bullsh!t to justify the killing and an imbecile like you and the rest of the nut jobs to believe it.

August 15, 2014 at 12:42 p.m.

Alprova, wrong LOL..Just pick any place and read about Thomas Sowell for example. His father died before he was born and his mother was a housemaid. At 17 he was forced to drop out of H.S. because of financial troubles at home. Read it yourself, dick. Walter Williams had no father in his life and grew up the projects in Philadelphia.

Go read about Thomas's early life. They were poor.

You call their lives advantaged? You're a just a flat out liar, and you're ignorant.

Ben Carson was raised in Detroit. His family was from rural Georgia. He was even in trouble when he was young.

Pick any basic source, like wiki, and you can get the correct information.

August 15, 2014 at 12:48 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Yeah, Alpo, the fact that the lad didn't have a cigar in his mouth when he was shot is compelling. Will check with Lawrence O'Donnell for the straight skinny.

August 15, 2014 at 12:48 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

No Zab, being black and overcoming adversity does not fit their narrative.

August 15, 2014 at 12:49 p.m.
LibDem said...

ibshame, You've still produced only 2 witnesses.

I can see some wish fulfillment here. When you hear and read what the profilers say about the police, you know that decent men and women are going to have problems choosing to work in a field where they will be verbally abused. You are begging for only the meanest guys to stick it out.

August 15, 2014 at 12:53 p.m.

Yeah, ibshame, you're the champion of the black community, no one can feel their pain like your liberal pajama boy white ass can LOL

Yeah, Jack, it doesn't. Libs hate, and I mean hate, black Americans who choose to leave their plantation.

August 15, 2014 at 12:53 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z, we do get a chuckle when they marry white girls and move into upscale, gated caucasian communities trying their darned most to distance themselves from their bros. You guys ran the plantations and still would if you could, not us.

August 15, 2014 at 1:07 p.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister in one sentence I could reduce your dumba$$ argument to shreds but I won 't because it's more fun to watch you make a complete a$$ of yourself.

August 15, 2014 at 1:08 p.m.

No, ibshame, this situation will not help BO or Democrats. Have you heard the anger directed toward BO? Cheap attempt on you libs' part to rally the black community against "whitey" and "the man". BO is the man.

August 15, 2014 at 1:09 p.m.
ibshame said...

LibDem there are more witnesses , no doubt they will come forward. According to the witnesses the clothes Michael Brown had on when he was shot did not match the clothes of the guy in the video. There are eyewitnesses and VIDEO.

August 15, 2014 at 1:15 p.m.

inq, so you object to them marrying a white women. So, you think blacks should only marry blacks? Gosh you libs' racism knows no bounds. Not only should they stay in the appropriate party, according to you libs, but they should only marry within their race. Truly revealing.

ibshame, you an overblown view of yourself. Who care what spills from your racist mouth. There's nothing you can say to make me look like you do, which is an ass. You're phony, and you reveal yourself by your constant attacks on black Americans who don't fit your agenda.

August 15, 2014 at 1:17 p.m.

inq, so what does that make a white man who marries a black woman and lives in a "gated community"? That's ok, but it's not ok for a black man to marry a white woman? Damn, the liberal mind is truly a mess.

August 15, 2014 at 1:22 p.m.

Jack, that's alprova, inq, ibshame and Guass

inq, i guess you object to black men stealing all the white women, huh. A real fear of yours, huh?

August 15, 2014 at 1:24 p.m.
ibshame said...

Z fister like I said before you must have me confused with someone who gives a blip about what you have to say.

August 15, 2014 at 1:26 p.m.

ibshame, i don't give a blib what you say. But, one thing is for sure you ARE a racist, as is inq.

According to inq, you're not really a real black man unless you marry a black woman. By that logic BO is not really OK either because his dad was black and his mom was white. What a convoluted mess you libs make when you reveal your agenda.

August 15, 2014 at 1:33 p.m.

So, inq, the lefty Major of NYC has a black wife, who was a lesbian, by the way, and that's OK, but Clarence Thomas' wife being white is not OK because he's a conservative? What if Clarence Thomas' wife was a flaming lefty, would that be OK then?

August 15, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.

inq, you pasty white lib, what should a bro act like? You mean like Al Sharpton, or a gang banger. Racist you are.

August 15, 2014 at 1:45 p.m.
Ki said...

MaxineANUS said: "funny thing about Democrats, they are a very violent bunch. hmmm"

Nowhere near as brutal , deadly and violent as those right wing-nut militias who go into Shiek temples shooting them up and other mass killing sprees and all align themselves as diehard conservative republicans. ;)

August 15, 2014 at 1:51 p.m.

See, inq, you prove me right. "distance themselves from their bros" What an ignorant statement. Who should he be, how should he behave and who should he hang around with? Idiot.

What about BO, why doesn't he vacation in the Virgin Islands or in Harlem or on the south side of Chicago instead of the all white Maaaatha's Vineyard? By your logic he should be hanging around with his "bros"

Idiocy.

August 15, 2014 at 1:57 p.m.

Ki, your post is ridiculous. Absurd.

August 15, 2014 at 2:01 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Libs like blacks as long as they say "yassuh, yassuh, Mista Boss. Yassuh.

August 15, 2014 at 2:02 p.m.

That's right, Jack. The wrath directed by ibeshame at all those I mentioned is like cracking a whip. Very revealing.

The outrage!!! How dare them "darkies" defy me!! ibeshame you need some help.

The outrage of Clarence Thomas turning his back on his party and then marrying a white woman!!! inq, you need help.

August 15, 2014 at 2:13 p.m.
LibDem said...

ibshame, No doubt hundreds of eyewitnesses will show up, many from out of state. There are apparently many people who hate the police.

August 15, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man, Thomas Sowell is the only one who truly qualifies as coming totally from a poor existence, but he got his start in the U.S. Military.

Ben Carson - Both parents were religious ministers Grew up with Bill Cosby.

Condoleeza Rice - Both parents were educators and her father was also a minister.

Clarence Thomas was only poor for his very early years. He went to live with wealthy grandparents.

The four are not your average poor who grew up in the ghettos.

August 15, 2014 at 2:45 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

First I would like to congratulate LibDem for making the most sense on this site that I can remember in a very long time. I don't hardly ever agree with his views but at this time he is making the most sense.

The fact is that more and more details are coming in moment by moment. So why do some of you want to riot on this posting just like they did in Ferguson?

We should all be praying for the families involved that the real truth will come out. And I believe that everyone on this posting wants justice done no matter who is at fault.

On a lighter note, I wish the TFP would open this site back up to everyone. Sometimes I can get on and sometimes I can't.

Al, I don't think I have had the chance to talk to you since your hospital stay. I hope you are doing better since your amputation. I was real sorry to read about that.

August 15, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo. Bulletin, bulletin! There are millions of black people that didn't grow up in the ghettos. I understand the dem's need to keep them there. A black underclass is a necessity of the Democrat Party. This isn't news.

August 15, 2014 at 3:06 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

old z-fister is really going, all wound up. He sez (among other silly things), "According to inq, you're not really a real black man unless you marry a black woman"

Actually it isn't being married to a white woman, its the collage of behavior, marry out of race, distance your self from your race, etc. He knows exactly what I mean.

A "bro" is someone who you bear some allegiance to as a fellow human, it does not mean you ought to go live next door or in a particular part of town, it means you are proud of the values and heritage of your race and don't feel obligated to cover up or adopt another's values and heritage. But that is too complicated for Z to understand, it is much easier to work in simplistic black and white.

The bottom line is z-man and pals have a really racist view of the world. The want to lump all Muslims into the same mold, all of them are out to kill Christians (quite a racist thing to say), and the want to lump all African-Americans into a category of drug- and alcohol crazed natives running around in loincloths stoned in the Texas wilderness, coming unto town to do a little rioting and steal some booze and a TV, except the well behaved ones who went to Yale or Princeton and married "up" in the world and defend the values of Z-fister and friends. "Shoot," they say, "Why couldn't they abeen born white in Tennessee so I could vote for them?"

If "a black underclass is a necessity of the Democrat Party" isn't a racist statement, there isn't one. The implication that they don't want to voice in public is the gross stereotypes, all those black folks running around partying instead of working, having babies they don't need, messing up our schools, marching in the street are animals, they don't need any support or compassion like the Democratic Party advocates. Yesirree, the color of the coat of z-bister and friends is clear for all to see. Boys the klan is alive and well.

August 15, 2014 at 3:45 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So IQ. Does a large underclass aid the Democrat Party, or not?

August 15, 2014 at 3:50 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

There is no "underclass." We are all bozos on this bus.

August 15, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

I AM surprised none of you gun nuts have been given pause about how difficult if not impossible your quixotic dream to use your guns to wrestle power from a run-away government that has armed its local gendarmes with DoD supplied weaponry and vehicles supplied as illustrated by the Ferguson PD.

August 15, 2014 at 5 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

What gun nuts?

August 15, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.

Sophistry, inq, which is all you're good at.

Is it quite possible, Eienstein, that Clarence Thomas married his wife because he loved her, and vice versa?

Sophistry.

The police in Ferguson shot Brown because he was a suspect in a robbery. You libs act as if he was playing in his yard and a police sniper picked him off, or they burst into house and shot him while he was using xbox.

August 15, 2014 at 5:16 p.m.

inq, the gang bangers in various cities are probably better armed than the police.

I'll believe the Ferguson police dept. over the that of bunch of criminals.

August 15, 2014 at 5:17 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

=============================

You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on.

August 15, 2014 at 5:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Nurse wrote: "Al, I don't think I have had the chance to talk to you since your hospital stay. I hope you are doing better since your amputation. I was real sorry to read about that."

I'm doing great, thank you. I had a sextuple bypass on June the 5th. Have just about completely recovered from that too.

I'm getting my permanent prosthesis this coming Monday, so things are definitely looking up for me.

Hope this finds you well too...

August 15, 2014 at 5:32 p.m.

Guass, your faux emotional attacks are laughable. Oh, yeah the poor unarmed teens. That's the way it is. What you should be alarmed about, cretin, are the all the black teens picking each other off, in addition to unarmed teens. I remember that poor little girl sitting on her porch in Chattanooga, a year or so ago, I don't remember exactly, who was shot by a drive by. Why didn't Sharpton and Lawrence O'Donnell scream about that? You are phonies, you libs are.

August 15, 2014 at 5:33 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Islamic militants kill 80 members of Iraq's Yazidi minority in a northern village, sources say. these militant guys are just victims of years of American intervention. Nice people, really. Just misunderstood.

August 15, 2014 at 5:44 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z-blister is starting to sound like George Wallace, what did he call them, some kind of pointy-headed intellectuals? It chaffed him to have some one inject reason into the argument. And jackdaniels, well, what can I say about you 2cd amendment guys. ISIL killed 80? How many did the klan kill?

Z-fister, it is only in a few countries that tradition dictates emotion determines one's spouse, Clarence could have married his lily-white wife for any number of reasons, liked her politics, even to cover up an issue of sexual preference. But as I said, let's talk about the whole package. You like him because he sings your song.

I should say, your racist song, as you sez, "are the all the black teens picking each other off."

Z-fister you have been fooled by your revolting bigotry trying to find a reason to justify the shooting. It was no sniper, it was a shot in the back. The chief of police just said the cop who shot the kid had no idea the deceased was a suspect in a robbery. I said the cop simply used him for target practice because he looked suspicious. After all, the cop probably figured he was an African-American hoodlum, probably a gang banger.

August 15, 2014 at 6:08 p.m.
alprova said...

Well, what I predicted would happen, happened.

Z-man wrote: *""Blah, blah, blah...blah, blah. (The same stuff we read posted from him every day of the week. Nothing new to read here folks.)

He is by far, along with his new butt-buddy, Jackie, the two most bigoted jerks in this forum. I'll guarantee the both of them, when they leave their homes, which doesn't seem to be in evidence, they lock and load, hit the panic button (door locks) the second they see a Black, olive skinned, or Hispanic man walking toward them.

They both keep a steady supply of depends to take care of the wetness they expel when they see either one of them.

Their both big men behind their anonymous screen names and their not-so anonymous Internet connection.

Both would piss their pants if a black, olive skinned or Hispanic person were to walk up to talk to either one of them.

Pathetic, utterly pathetic...the both of you.

August 15, 2014 at 6:16 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^^^ You should know pathetic. I'm only bigoted when it comes to you, Pudge. A morally & financially bankrupt leech. Roll out on the front porch and sit by the washing machine.

August 15, 2014 at 6:24 p.m.

Astoundingly stupid and meaningless posts by Alprova and Inq.

Stupid comments with no basis in reality. Vacant crap.

I've proven over again that you libs are the racists. The only racist things uttered on here are by you libs.

You, inq, criticizing Clarence Thomas for marrying a white woman, and ibshame's continual use of the racial slur "uncle tom"

You libs have ZERO chance of convincing me of anything.

Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, and Alan West matter are great Americans but to you libs they're just "uncle toms"

Martin Luther King Jr. would find you modern day libs, and BO, absolutely repulsive.

August 15, 2014 at 6:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

yes, your mind is made up zippy. You like flying blind.

August 15, 2014 at 6:34 p.m.

inq, you're a flat out liar. I lumped nothing together. I've pointed out many times that it's extremist Muslims, not all Muslims, fool.

Your comment about "bros" and Black men who happen to be married to white women/Clarence Thomas is racist. As I asked, what should he behave like, what should he do, and who should hang around with?

Are there certain things that a black man must do in order to be acceptable to you? Is there a standard? Liberal insanity.

You're the racist.

August 15, 2014 at 6:40 p.m.

No, inq, I'm immune from your stupid sophistry.

August 15, 2014 at 6:41 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Then convince us by quit trying to defend yourself , George, i mean zipster

August 15, 2014 at 6:53 p.m.

Bull$hit, Alprova. Not one of them came from an "advantaged" background. Laughable. Absolutely laughable. Your post is bull$hit. Who are you to judge them? Your cheap two bit summery of their lives is vomit.

You libs hatred of all them, particularly Thomas, is palpable. You're haters.

And you have some connection with the ghetto? The arrogance of you libs knows no bounds.

Racists, all of you.

August 15, 2014 at 6:55 p.m.

They all experienced racism, have you, Alprova?

According to you, Alprova, Martin Luther King Jr. would be an "uncle tom"

August 15, 2014 at 7:03 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

zixxie, by the way you talk I'd be willing to think I've been a whole lot closer to the ghetto than you. You should join me some time, it might open your eyes.

Why should I hate Clarence Thomas? Are you projecting your own behavior on me, that is, you hate President Obama because you disagree with him, or his religion, or his values; therefore, if i disagree with someone I must hate them? Forget that.

August 15, 2014 at 7:07 p.m.
Ki said...

da ziplar said: the police in ferguson shot brown because he was a suspect* in arobbery.

datum! zip!! Only a suspect? When did it become justified for police to shoot someone in cold blood, multiple times, for being only suspected of committing a crime? And witnesses said had his hands raised in surrender mode? Is that like that sweepsrakex that say:

___ (1.) you win the prize if, maybe you're the 50TH person to respond?

___ (2.) Or maybe it's like falsely accusing an elderly 90+ plus years old of selling drugs from her home after raiding her it during a no knock warrant. Shooting her and leaving her bleeding to death handcuffed on her livingroom floor while planting drugs to cover your tracks after realizing you'd made a horrible mistake?

August 15, 2014 at 7:18 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Al, Wow!!! you should feel like a new man. That is totally amazing. Glad to hear you are doing so well.

I am good. Just need to loose about 80 pounds or I will be the one having a bypass. For now my diabetes is under control too. Just wanted you to know I have prayed for you.

I have watched the video of the grocery store robbery. It was definitely Mike Brown. If he was as aggressive to the policeman as he was to the grocery store clerk then I can see why the event escalated. I would like to see the autopsy. It will help the investigation. I also wish there was a dash cam but I guess there was not.

AS stated before, more of the whole story will come in time.

August 15, 2014 at 7:24 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

=============================

You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on.

August 15, 2014 at 7:32 p.m.
Ki said...

People keep using the term robbery when the video doesn't even show a robbery taking place, but a possible shoplifting and assault. See how just one or two incorrect use of words bring about different images and perceptions and can control the human psyche?

The term robbery implies some form of weapon was used.

August 15, 2014 at 7:40 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

ConMan, are you dense or something? You have been saying that all day. Still waiting on you to post one lie that has came from my keyboard. I mean if I am the "despicable liar" you claim, you should have been able to post at least one lie by now.

August 15, 2014 at 7:51 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Guass, your faux emotional attacks are laughable. Oh, yeah the poor unarmed teens. That's the way it is. What you should be alarmed about, cretin, are the all the black teens picking each other off, in addition to unarmed teens."

Who said I wasn't? But what do the two have to do with each other? So because other teens kill each other, I should just accept what happened in Ferguson? Makes a ton of sense.

August 15, 2014 at 7:54 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said

Yet, guys like Fister and ConMan celebrate that an unarmed teen was gunned down by a cop.

=============================

You are one despicable liar!

I have celebrated the killing of no one in any way

I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on.

August 15, 2014 at 7:54 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Reports are coming out that the cop did not even know Brown was involved in the "robbery" (if you call swiping a Cigarillo a robbery).

August 15, 2014 at 7:55 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"I have mostly ignored you but no more. I will not only call you out but I will do it multiple times from now on."

Multiple times? Sh!t wacko, just show me one lie.

August 15, 2014 at 7:56 p.m.
fairmon said...

Some can reach a profound conclusion with just a hint of the facts. It is a most unfortunate situation and the family deserves a lot of respect and factual information, I do feel for them. But, on a personal level regardless of ethnicity if he bullied a business owner and stole a box of cigars I don't care if he got zapped. More of that and the instances of stealing would go down and at the very least reduce repeated thievery by the same person. Of course he may have had a real need for those cigars. I cannot stand a thief, a con artist or dishonesty especially to scam another person.

Peaceful demonstrations, protest and petitioning of leaders are legal, appropriate and in this case all should occur. However, there is no justification for destroying property and looting. Those opportunist that attempt to capitalize on tragedies such as this are disgusting, they are looking for the cameras and leave when the cameras leave. The police did not and cannot cause people to destroy businesses and steal their merchandise.

August 15, 2014 at 8:26 p.m.

You libs have taken it upon yourselves to decide who is really black and who isn't. Truly sick.

August 15, 2014 at 8:53 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Ah, Fairmon now decides being a suspect of robbery by a police officer whose chief said he had no knowledge of it, deserves the penalty of death by gun? It's scarey folks are still around who think that stuff, aliens will off the planet as useless monitoring this page as evidence.

August 15, 2014 at 9:34 p.m.
Ki said...

It's being reported that this cop, Darren Wilson, wasn't even aware of the allege incident at the store when he came across Michael Brown and his friend. That he actually confronted them for walking in the middle of the street, and it had absolutely nothing to do with the allege store incident. So if this chief is going to such extremes to cover for this cop and feed false information to the media, and possibly state and federal investigators too, then maybe he should be investigated as well. Wouldn't be thee first time a chief of police was found dirty and corrupt and running an equally dirty and corrupt dept.

August 15, 2014 at 10:16 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Astoundingly stupid and meaningless posts by Alprova and Inq."

You do mean the ones that come from your fingers, don't you?

"Stupid comments with no basis in reality. Vacant crap."

Yes Sir. That just about sizes of those you offer every day.

"I've proven over again that you libs are the racists. The only racist things uttered on here are by you libs."

You and Jackie seem to suffer from the same disorder. You don't understand the concept of proving anything. You think accusations are your proof.

"You, inq, criticizing Clarence Thomas for marrying a white woman, and ibshame's continual use of the racial slur "uncle tom".."

You need to save that comment for anyone whom has waded into such territory. I, personally have never referred to anyone as an "Uncle Tom."

"You libs have ZERO chance of convincing me of anything."

I know that. You're most comfortable wallowing in your swimming pool of ignorance.

"Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, and Alan West matter are great Americans but to you libs they're just "uncle toms".."

I don't happen to subscribe to the theory that anyone is a greater American than someone else. American pride is a false bravado.

"Martin Luther King Jr. would find you modern day libs, and BO, absolutely repulsive."

Maybe you should stick to attempt to speak for those conservatives who are alive. People who state such things about Martin Luther King are quite ignorant.

And I know right where you got that one from. That's one of Rush Limbaugh's favorite lines.

You don't seem capable of original thought, so you steal other's words to make your silly points all the time.

You're a broken record, Francis.

August 15, 2014 at 10:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Bull$hit, Alprova. Not one of them came from an "advantaged" background. Laughable. Absolutely laughable. Your post is bull$hit."

The hell it is. Thomas Sowell is the only self-made man, although he was helped greatly as one who entered the U.S. military.

Condi Rice & Ben Carson both had educator and/or religious minister parents. These were not poor people. Ben Thomas grew up in the same well-to-do neighborhood in Philadelphia that Bill Cosby did.

Clarence Thomas started out dirt poor but moved in with wealthier grandparents as a child.

Look it up. I did.

"Who are you to judge them? Your cheap two bit summery of their lives is vomit."

Why? Because it destroys those silly pedestals you have been putting all of them on? You're so bigoted, that you believe that any and every black conservative had to come from a disadvantaged life?

"You libs hatred of all them, particularly Thomas, is palpable. You're haters."

I hate no one. I have expressed not an ounce of hatred for any on your list. I do tend to dwell in reality, and the reality is that three of the four do not fit this mold in your mind as "self-made" people.

"And you have some connection with the ghetto? The arrogance of you libs knows no bounds."

Ghetto is the term I chose to illustrate the poorest of the poor. That was your assertion, was it not? You claim all of them came from such disadvantaged lifestyles.

"Racists, all of you."

Accusations are quite meaningless. I'll bet you cannot even define the word properly.

August 15, 2014 at 10:50 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "They all experienced racism, have you, Alprova?"

I seriously doubt that any of them experienced racism. You're very ignorant to throw that word around all the time. Do you even know how to define it?

Racism is the inherent belief that one race of people is intellectually or physically superior to another.

Bigotry is something more akin to what every single black person experiences many times throughout their lives.

Now that you know the facts, let's see if you can post more accurately in the future.

"According to you, Alprova, Martin Luther King Jr. would be an "uncle tom""

I have expressed no such sentiment and I do not appreciate you attributing me with words I have never posted.

That is a purposeful lie. Why must you be so dishonest when discussing issues in this forum?

Is the truth so hard for you to accept?

August 15, 2014 at 10:57 p.m.
alprova said...

Nurse wrote: "I am good. Just need to loose about 80 pounds or I will be the one having a bypass. For now my diabetes is under control too. Just wanted you to know I have prayed for you."

Thanks very much. I'm looking forward to learning to walk and then exercising to make one last push to get the rest of the weight off of me. 135 pounds so far and am keeping it off.

I hope you'll stick around for awhile. Have missed some civil conversation for a long time.

"I have watched the video of the grocery store robbery. It was definitely Mike Brown. If he was as aggressive to the policeman as he was to the grocery store clerk then I can see why the event escalated. I would like to see the autopsy. It will help the investigation. I also wish there was a dash cam but I guess there was not."

In light of the evidence, I have to agree. My only question is why they waited so long to release it. I questioned from day one what led to the encounter between the officer and Brown.

"AS stated before, more of the whole story will come in time."

This is going to be one of those where the adage that there are always two sides to every story, makes even more sense in the end.

August 15, 2014 at 11:04 p.m.
alprova said...

Read the police reports. They all appear to be genuine. Every single radio exchange is there. Everything is there.

I'm still waiting to read the answers to my two questions, which are;

What happened to the $40.00 worth of cigars that were never recovered?, and;

Was Michael Brown shot in his back?

August 15, 2014 at 11:10 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^ what a nauseating pile of it

August 15, 2014 at 11:10 p.m.
alprova said...

Ki wrote: "It's being reported that this cop, Darren Wilson, wasn't even aware of the allege incident at the store when he came across Michael Brown and his friend. That he actually confronted them for walking in the middle of the street, and it had absolutely nothing to do with the allege store incident. So if this chief is going to such extremes to cover for this cop and feed false information to the media, and possibly state and federal investigators too, then maybe he should be investigated as well. Wouldn't be thee first time a chief of police was found dirty and corrupt and running an equally dirty and corrupt dept."

I read earlier today that the FBI has opened an investigation into the entire mess. So the facts will come out and if there is indeed a cover-up, it will be discovered.

I'm leaning toward the police now, with the exception of the number of shots that young man took as one who was unarmed and it bothers me that if he was the strong-armed robber, what happened to the $40.00 worth of cigars?

Something isn't right. College bound boy with no record turns into robbery suspect and potential a cop killer?

It smells of a whitewash, no pun intended.

August 15, 2014 at 11:17 p.m.
Maximus said...

Let's see:

Condi Rice sure killed a LOT of raghead Arab terrorists in her tenure as Sec. Of State under another ass kicker, "W". Oh yea, Miss Rice is also a MEMBER at the Masters. Barry The Welfare Pimp Obama is not.

Dr. Carson was a neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins. Alprova is a fat ass pot head on disability.

The issue in the black community that so called social justice Democrats created is that the black father which Sowell, Rice, Dr. King, and Dr. Carson had has been replaced by Obama's welfare state. A sorry state of affairs created by a bunch of lazy, trifling, loser Democrats like Aprova the born loser victim in an extra large guvment wheel chair. Lol!

August 15, 2014 at 11:18 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "^ what a nauseating pile of it"

What's the matter Jackie?

Did you attempt to fart and crap your pants?

That happens a lot to people your age.

August 15, 2014 at 11:22 p.m.
Maximus said...

How many blacks are murdered in Obama's home town of Chicago every day? One thug robber gets shot by a cop in a crime riddled Democrat St. Louis neighborhood and all the girly men social justice welfare Democrat men go all Oprah on us.

Come on man! Really?

August 15, 2014 at 11:23 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo inexplicably hung up on a box of cheap ass Swisher Sweets. Probably dumped 'em. Not like he had a case of Rocky Patel's. Wise-up, hick.

August 15, 2014 at 11:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Condi Rice sure killed a LOT of raghead Arab terrorists in her tenure as Sec. Of State under another ass kicker, "W"."

Pulled the trigger herself on those kills? Moron.

"Oh yea, Miss Rice is also a MEMBER at the Masters. Barry The Welfare Pimp Obama is not.{"

So what?

"Dr. Carson was a neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins. Alprova is a fat ass pot head on disability."

Look...I never put any on that list down or attempted to demean any of them. They simply did not come from disadvantaged homes.

I certainly never attempted to best myself over any one of them.

So I fail to see your point you pathetic pathological liar.

"The issue in the black community that so called social justice Democrats created is that the black father which Sowell, Rice, Dr. King, and Dr. Carson had has been replaced by Obama's welfare state."

You give them way too much credit. They are all very self-serving people, who have done nothing for any other blacks but themselves.

"A sorry state of affairs created by a bunch of lazy, trifling, loser Democrats like Aprova the born loser victim in an extra large guvment wheel chair. Lol!"

Again, you know NOTHIN of my personal circumstances. I've paid every dime for all of my disability equipment. I'll be soon giving some of it away, as I find that I will not need it.

Black Conservatives are fine people, but they are no better than anyone else, when it comes down to it.

God and the Bible are the ultimate equalizer. You'd know that if you had an ounce of religion truly running around in that lying head of yours.

Here...read again a sample of your hideous, intentional dishonesty you have dropped like turds into this forum;

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jun/20/evidence-room-cartoon-clay-bennett-times/#c234519

August 15, 2014 at 11:34 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says, "God and the Bible are the ultimate equalizer. You'd know that if you had an ounce of religion truly running around in that lying head of yours." you've a lot of nerve, nimrod, talking about God and the Bible. You, the champion liar of the forum

August 15, 2014 at 11:40 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Alpo inexplicably hung up on a box of cheap ass Swisher Sweets. Probably dumped 'em. Not like he had a case of Rocky Patel's. Wise-up, hick."

You've got some nerve calling someone else a hick, after some of the crap you post in here. And this after you crapped your pants?

[Shaking my head...]

Actually, I'm more hung up on whether or not the boy was shot in his back, and that will eventually come out, but regardless of what does come out, it's going to be VERY hard to justify eight bullets into an unarmed suspect 35 feet from where an alleged tussle for a gun was claimed.

August 15, 2014 at 11:40 p.m.
Maximus said...

Alprova You have not paid every dime of your disability equipment, your disability checks paid for by the hard working American tax payer, paid for your reeking disability equipment.

And your comment about Dr. Martin Luther King only helping himself is a milestone to just how entrenched you are in your blind dedication to the ultimately disastrous Democrat socialist ideology.

August 15, 2014 at 11:45 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Crapping my pants??? lol

August 15, 2014 at 11:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "you've a lot of nerve, nimrod, talking about God and the Bible. You, the champion liar of the forum"

Are you going to start that whining again?

You want something you will never get. You're still harassing me on a daily basis and you want me to apologize to you? How 'bout taking a sh!t in one hand and wishing in the other and see which one fills first.

The best thing you can do is drop it. You whined and cried until you got satisfaction from the TFP by them asking me nicely to back off. I've done that.

Instead of being grateful that I have backed off, you're still needling me.

I again ask the question;

WHAT THE &(%& IS WRONG WITH YOU?

August 15, 2014 at 11:46 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Alprova You have not paid every dime of your disability equipment, your disability checks paid for by the hard working American tax payer, paid for your reeking disability equipment."

Unlike you, who pretends to have made this vast fortune, I maximized my contributions for several years and it will be at least a decade before I go into the red from what I paid into the system, so I assure you that what I have spent has come from my own funds and assets.

"And your comment about Dr. Martin Luther King only helping himself is a milestone to just how entrenched you are in your blind dedication to the ultimately disastrous Democrat socialist ideology."

Like it matters a whit what you think. We're all stocked up on crazy, demented, pathological lying megalomaniacs.

Please apply elsewhere.

August 15, 2014 at 11:51 p.m.
Maximus said...

Oh and Al if you really don't know what the significance of Condi Rice being a member at the Augusta National Golf Club....The Masters...then you really are out of touch with society. Do us all a favor....take a belt from your closet and do a Robin Williams exit. After all the only friend that will miss you is Clay Bennett.

August 15, 2014 at 11:52 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Oh and Al if you really don't know what the significance of Condi Rice being a member at the Augusta National Golf Club....The Masters...then you really are out of touch with society."

Really? I'm someone who is unimpressed with people who stick their noses in the air because they can successfully chase a little white ball around for hours at a time.

"Do us all a favor....take a belt from your closet and do a Robin Williams exit. After all the only friend that will miss you is Clay Bennett."

Hey...I love my life. I've got lots of friends and family who care oodles about me. Depression isn't even a word in my vocabulary.

Don't be mad at me for your idiocy and your propensity to lie all the damn time.

Take responsibility for your own actions, for once.

I'm going to live a long life. I guess you're going to have to change your identity again to be able to successfully troll this forum in the future.

August 16, 2014 at 12:02 a.m.
fairmon said...

Your reading comprehension would not score well on the CORE testing program. I would not want to see someone that is only a suspect shot but if caught in the act of stealing blast away. Thieves, including shop lifters, are low life scum that deserve whatever bad things happens to them including getting shot.

August 16, 2014 at 12:30 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon, do you believe your punishment fits the crime? I find it a bit extreme myself.

August 16, 2014 at 1:01 a.m.
Ki said...

Maxine, responding to your 11:18 pm post

Don't know how old you are, but it was all during a time Republicans were heavily elected to office that those fathers were ran off from any household receiving any federal assistance. Their motto was: we'll take care of the woman and any children, but only if there's no man in the house! This was all during a time too of high unemployment rates for black males, and that last hired first fired era for blacks. So the only options some black families had were to either be involved in some illegal activity to feed his family or the family was forced to rely on some type of federal assistance.

The republicans even had social workers to go into the homes of Americans receiving assistance and to go through closets, check under couches/beds and rummage through dresser drawers and such, and if they so much as found a pair of male underwear or a man's hat the family could be cut off immediately from receiving any type of assistance. They even had neighbors spying on neighbors and reporting, oftentimes falsely, that a man was in the house. So you have republicans to thank for running those men off in order that their families would at least be allowed the most basics in order to survive.

August 16, 2014 at 4:41 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ki, not sure where you are getting your story from. Must be some Afro-Centric college professor because the Democrats, most recently Barry The Welfare Pimp, has been whoring black America out to the welfare trough and crushing your dreams for almost eight years now not to mention Al "Bones" Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, the Rev. Of Welfare.

August 16, 2014 at 6:18 a.m.
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