Great posts (12:55 and 12:56 p.m.), ibshame. I'm sure, though, that your words will fall on deaf conservative ears. Just a pack of "liberal lies," as far as they are concerned. After all, they have discovered that truth and reality have a definite liberal bias.
Oh my, another scandal of HUGE proportion. It's at least as big and as perilous as..."voter fraud!" We can't have the IRS going after a poor picked-on group like the Tea Party. Lord knows, those fine upstanding, self-proclaimed tax-haters would NEVER try to get away with phony tax exemptions. How dare the IRS resort to such unwarranted profiling against these uber-patriotic good ol' boys! Come on, you wingnuts, do your thing: form a committee paid for with our tax dollars, pass some new laws, impeach that Kenyan/Muslim/socialist Prez, waste more and more of our precious time...anything but work for the good of the country, anything but do something constructive. Oh, sorry...I used a word that's not in your vocabulary: c-o-n-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-v-e.
As usual, no response at all as to how Bush's flagrant lies, deception, and ineptitude were perfectly acceptable to these teabagging stone throwers. The poor guy just made simple honest mistakes, right? But Obama on the other hand...well, we all know he's the anti-Christ and needs to be dealt with accordingly. Impeach the vile devil! Off with his socialistic/Marxist/communist/Kenyan/Muslim head!
'Nuff said. I'll leave it to you whiners to keep fanning the smoke from this little cap gun, trying to make a bomb out of it. You'll never succeed but your attempts are worthy of the best quixotic wind-mill jousters. Blathering whimpering idiots.
That's not my gas I'm passing, chatt_man. What you hear and smell is the putrid gas from the Bush administration that still lingers. That's the gas that you whiners need to deal with and fumigate first, before you make such a big deal over a little Obama fart.
The unnecessary, illegitimate, phony Iraq war with over 5000 American soldiers dead as a result (not to mention hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis but what's a little collateral damage, right?), the ignoring of intelligence prior to 9/11 that there was soon to be a terrorist attack on American soil, the many attacks on embassies and consulates resulting in deaths and injuries under Bush's watch, the drastic cuts for embassy security set in place by Republicans back in 2011 and 2012....all these things have been brought to the attention of the nitwits who are whining about this god-awful, unconscionable "conspiracy" of Obama and Hillary Clinton, but they do not respond to those facts at all; or if they do it's only to say "But it's not the same thing." They just whine and scream "Conspiracy....cover-up...off with their heads!"
Blathering idiots, one and all. But keep it up, you knee-jerk, reactionary rabid righties. The longer you play this game the stupider you look. You wasted precious time and money with Monica-gate, Whitewater, and the Vince Foster "conspiracies." Now you're being true to form trying to turn this Democratic mole hill into a mountain. I repeat: blathering idiots, one and all.
One final thought and then I'm going to shut up for today:
I imagine that most of you have seen the movie, "Lincoln," with Daniel Day Lewis? There is a scene towards the end where Tommy Lee Jones's character, Thaddeus Stevens, the Republican congressional leader and staunch abolitionist, in his oration, lets loose with a litany of insults and derogatory names for his antagonists. Of course, there was a lot of poetic license taken in the making of the movie, but that particular scene was not a stretch by any means. There really was a lot of name-calling and mud-slinging that took place in those days. Political cartoons and debates were also much more vicious and personal than they are today. You people who are making such a fuss, claiming to be so offended by name calling and insults are showing what ninnies you are. Politics is by nature dirty and personal. I appreciate people calling a spade a spade and making it clear exactly what side of the fence they stand on rather than feigning politeness, civility, and decorum, all the while seething with hatred for those on the other side. I detest teaparty conservatism as much as you teabaggers detest liberalism and I'm not going to pretend that I want to make nice and sit down and have a beer with you teabaggers.
I think that we are at a critical crossroads. We can either come to fruition as a nation, with a NEW New Deal for the 21st century, with liberty and justice for ALL, or we can continue on this road to ruin that Reagan, Bush et al, and their brand of corporatism/fascism/crony capitalism have taken us down. IMO we are headed for either outright revolution, or more likely (since most people are too apathetic to bother to take to the streets) economic ruin, which will engender its own form of revolution.
I never flag anyone on this forum and I never bat an eyelash when someone lets loose with an insult or a name, whether it's directed at me personally or at someone who shares my beliefs. This is a political forum, after all, and it is only natural for it to get down and dirty sometimes. I can, and often do, write comments that are devoid of name calling but I'm sure I will continue to let loose with some insulting names from time to time. Name calling can be childish and destructive, yes, at least if one does not accompany it with sound reasoning; but truth is not necessarily limited to sterilized, church-lady-ish, profane-free commentary either.
To you people who are taking your exits because you believe this forum to be a cesspool of useless bickering, I say good riddance. Personally I'm much more insulted by willful ignorance and closed-minded, self-righteous arrogance than I am by name calling. Having said that, I realize that there are many on here who think that I in my liberalism epitomize the very things that they detest so much. So be it. Let the debates, the struggle, the battles continue. Ain't it grand!
You wingnuts feigning indignation - that's really cute. JonRoss you say that you regret that you "lowered" your standards but your standards were already in the gutter as far as I'm concerned. I regretted most everything you had to say, too. It was a sad waste of time reading it. Bye.
Timbo, regarding what you say here: "The real reason is there (sic) ashamed of their tone and of their opinions. They don't want their friends, family, or coworkers to see just how nasty they really are." That's amusing. Where do you come up with such nonsense? I am not the least bit ashamed of anything that I opine or that I write. What I think and write is who I am and I am not ashamed of me and what I represent. I am fully aware that my opinion, like yours and everybody else's, is basically just that - an opinion - and that in the end we are all just made up of an assortment of opinions that we like to think are the right ones. I hope that at least some small part of what I think is aligned with some deep-seated eternal truth, but even if I might be proven completely wrong in the end, I nonetheless will have made the attempt to state my case and my beliefs as best I can with the knowledge I had at hand.
Gjuster, my name is Rick Armstrong. I have said my full name before. I don't think that anybody is necessarily hiding behind a name on here. Using screen names on forums like this is just part of the deal, you know that. I find it interesting that you are getting your tightie-whities in such a wad over my name calling. I was reading some of the earlier posts here and I noticed that librul, for instance, indulged in some rather colorful name calling, such as Tea Party wackos, teabaggers, pitiful little band of miscreants, knuckle draggers, idiotic pieholes, two-faced radical pee-party politicians (good one, librul, I like that one), yet you said nothing then and in fact continued to respond. So why you take offense at my rather mild name calling by comparison is a mystery to me. But it doesn't matter, because, like I said, I'm not really interested in the BS that you try to pass off as truth anyway.
You say that my facts are wrong but what you claim to be "facts" is nothing more than your opinion, and your opinions are based on your apparent inability to be aware of how destructive, backward, and narrow minded your teabagging brand of conservatism is. You like to think that you and your "pitiful little band of miscreants" (I'm borrowing from you, librul; that's another good one) are the real Americans and anyone who doesn't espouse your narrow view of conservatism is un-American by default. Your attempts to confer logic and a semblance of sanity to what the Tea Party stands for is a pretty good attempt at white-washing the truth but anybody with any common sense at all sees the Tea Party for the band of clowns it really is. The half-witted and hateful candidates that the TP has endorsed the past few years reveal everything there is to know about what you really stand for. From Michelle Bachmann to Allen West to Paul Broun to Herman Cain to Ted Cruz, to Todd Akin, and on and on and on, you teabaggers have done nothing but try to drag us back into the Dark Ages with your destructive policies and attempts at enacting your regressive legislation.
Gjuster, I'm not really interested in anything you have to say anyway. It's obvious to me that you dissemble and whitewash what the Tea Party really stands for. You try to make it appear that it is just a patriotic group of good old-fashioned Americans who want nothing more than individual freedom, fiscal responsibility, and limited government, and you can't understand why everybody doesn't love you. The candidates the Tea Party has endorsed have been the most screwball, backward, and unintelligent ones ever to come on the scene and while most people see them for what they are - idiots - you praise them for their what you claim is their fresh perspective and for "not bowing down to the old guard." Herman Cain? Alan West? My god, how brain-dead does one have to be take yahoos like them seriously?
BTW, just because you think yourself to be above name calling doesn't make what you say any more intelligent or more truthful than those who happen to indulge in casting a few aspersions in their comments.
Treading
Great posts (12:55 and 12:56 p.m.), ibshame. I'm sure, though, that your words will fall on deaf conservative ears. Just a pack of "liberal lies," as far as they are concerned. After all, they have discovered that truth and reality have a definite liberal bias.
Treading
Oh my, another scandal of HUGE proportion. It's at least as big and as perilous as..."voter fraud!" We can't have the IRS going after a poor picked-on group like the Tea Party. Lord knows, those fine upstanding, self-proclaimed tax-haters would NEVER try to get away with phony tax exemptions. How dare the IRS resort to such unwarranted profiling against these uber-patriotic good ol' boys! Come on, you wingnuts, do your thing: form a committee paid for with our tax dollars, pass some new laws, impeach that Kenyan/Muslim/socialist Prez, waste more and more of our precious time...anything but work for the good of the country, anything but do something constructive. Oh, sorry...I used a word that's not in your vocabulary: c-o-n-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-v-e.
The Whistle
As usual, no response at all as to how Bush's flagrant lies, deception, and ineptitude were perfectly acceptable to these teabagging stone throwers. The poor guy just made simple honest mistakes, right? But Obama on the other hand...well, we all know he's the anti-Christ and needs to be dealt with accordingly. Impeach the vile devil! Off with his socialistic/Marxist/communist/Kenyan/Muslim head!
'Nuff said. I'll leave it to you whiners to keep fanning the smoke from this little cap gun, trying to make a bomb out of it. You'll never succeed but your attempts are worthy of the best quixotic wind-mill jousters. Blathering whimpering idiots.
The Whistle
That's not my gas I'm passing, chatt_man. What you hear and smell is the putrid gas from the Bush administration that still lingers. That's the gas that you whiners need to deal with and fumigate first, before you make such a big deal over a little Obama fart.
The Whistle
The unnecessary, illegitimate, phony Iraq war with over 5000 American soldiers dead as a result (not to mention hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis but what's a little collateral damage, right?), the ignoring of intelligence prior to 9/11 that there was soon to be a terrorist attack on American soil, the many attacks on embassies and consulates resulting in deaths and injuries under Bush's watch, the drastic cuts for embassy security set in place by Republicans back in 2011 and 2012....all these things have been brought to the attention of the nitwits who are whining about this god-awful, unconscionable "conspiracy" of Obama and Hillary Clinton, but they do not respond to those facts at all; or if they do it's only to say "But it's not the same thing." They just whine and scream "Conspiracy....cover-up...off with their heads!" Blathering idiots, one and all. But keep it up, you knee-jerk, reactionary rabid righties. The longer you play this game the stupider you look. You wasted precious time and money with Monica-gate, Whitewater, and the Vince Foster "conspiracies." Now you're being true to form trying to turn this Democratic mole hill into a mountain. I repeat: blathering idiots, one and all.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
One final thought and then I'm going to shut up for today:
I imagine that most of you have seen the movie, "Lincoln," with Daniel Day Lewis? There is a scene towards the end where Tommy Lee Jones's character, Thaddeus Stevens, the Republican congressional leader and staunch abolitionist, in his oration, lets loose with a litany of insults and derogatory names for his antagonists. Of course, there was a lot of poetic license taken in the making of the movie, but that particular scene was not a stretch by any means. There really was a lot of name-calling and mud-slinging that took place in those days. Political cartoons and debates were also much more vicious and personal than they are today. You people who are making such a fuss, claiming to be so offended by name calling and insults are showing what ninnies you are. Politics is by nature dirty and personal. I appreciate people calling a spade a spade and making it clear exactly what side of the fence they stand on rather than feigning politeness, civility, and decorum, all the while seething with hatred for those on the other side. I detest teaparty conservatism as much as you teabaggers detest liberalism and I'm not going to pretend that I want to make nice and sit down and have a beer with you teabaggers.
I think that we are at a critical crossroads. We can either come to fruition as a nation, with a NEW New Deal for the 21st century, with liberty and justice for ALL, or we can continue on this road to ruin that Reagan, Bush et al, and their brand of corporatism/fascism/crony capitalism have taken us down. IMO we are headed for either outright revolution, or more likely (since most people are too apathetic to bother to take to the streets) economic ruin, which will engender its own form of revolution.
I never flag anyone on this forum and I never bat an eyelash when someone lets loose with an insult or a name, whether it's directed at me personally or at someone who shares my beliefs. This is a political forum, after all, and it is only natural for it to get down and dirty sometimes. I can, and often do, write comments that are devoid of name calling but I'm sure I will continue to let loose with some insulting names from time to time. Name calling can be childish and destructive, yes, at least if one does not accompany it with sound reasoning; but truth is not necessarily limited to sterilized, church-lady-ish, profane-free commentary either.
To you people who are taking your exits because you believe this forum to be a cesspool of useless bickering, I say good riddance. Personally I'm much more insulted by willful ignorance and closed-minded, self-righteous arrogance than I am by name calling. Having said that, I realize that there are many on here who think that I in my liberalism epitomize the very things that they detest so much. So be it. Let the debates, the struggle, the battles continue. Ain't it grand!
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
You wingnuts feigning indignation - that's really cute. JonRoss you say that you regret that you "lowered" your standards but your standards were already in the gutter as far as I'm concerned. I regretted most everything you had to say, too. It was a sad waste of time reading it. Bye.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Timbo, regarding what you say here: "The real reason is there (sic) ashamed of their tone and of their opinions. They don't want their friends, family, or coworkers to see just how nasty they really are." That's amusing. Where do you come up with such nonsense? I am not the least bit ashamed of anything that I opine or that I write. What I think and write is who I am and I am not ashamed of me and what I represent. I am fully aware that my opinion, like yours and everybody else's, is basically just that - an opinion - and that in the end we are all just made up of an assortment of opinions that we like to think are the right ones. I hope that at least some small part of what I think is aligned with some deep-seated eternal truth, but even if I might be proven completely wrong in the end, I nonetheless will have made the attempt to state my case and my beliefs as best I can with the knowledge I had at hand.
Rick Armstrong
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Gjuster, my name is Rick Armstrong. I have said my full name before. I don't think that anybody is necessarily hiding behind a name on here. Using screen names on forums like this is just part of the deal, you know that. I find it interesting that you are getting your tightie-whities in such a wad over my name calling. I was reading some of the earlier posts here and I noticed that librul, for instance, indulged in some rather colorful name calling, such as Tea Party wackos, teabaggers, pitiful little band of miscreants, knuckle draggers, idiotic pieholes, two-faced radical pee-party politicians (good one, librul, I like that one), yet you said nothing then and in fact continued to respond. So why you take offense at my rather mild name calling by comparison is a mystery to me. But it doesn't matter, because, like I said, I'm not really interested in the BS that you try to pass off as truth anyway.
You say that my facts are wrong but what you claim to be "facts" is nothing more than your opinion, and your opinions are based on your apparent inability to be aware of how destructive, backward, and narrow minded your teabagging brand of conservatism is. You like to think that you and your "pitiful little band of miscreants" (I'm borrowing from you, librul; that's another good one) are the real Americans and anyone who doesn't espouse your narrow view of conservatism is un-American by default. Your attempts to confer logic and a semblance of sanity to what the Tea Party stands for is a pretty good attempt at white-washing the truth but anybody with any common sense at all sees the Tea Party for the band of clowns it really is. The half-witted and hateful candidates that the TP has endorsed the past few years reveal everything there is to know about what you really stand for. From Michelle Bachmann to Allen West to Paul Broun to Herman Cain to Ted Cruz, to Todd Akin, and on and on and on, you teabaggers have done nothing but try to drag us back into the Dark Ages with your destructive policies and attempts at enacting your regressive legislation.
Tea party bitter over Obama golf outing
Gjuster, I'm not really interested in anything you have to say anyway. It's obvious to me that you dissemble and whitewash what the Tea Party really stands for. You try to make it appear that it is just a patriotic group of good old-fashioned Americans who want nothing more than individual freedom, fiscal responsibility, and limited government, and you can't understand why everybody doesn't love you. The candidates the Tea Party has endorsed have been the most screwball, backward, and unintelligent ones ever to come on the scene and while most people see them for what they are - idiots - you praise them for their what you claim is their fresh perspective and for "not bowing down to the old guard." Herman Cain? Alan West? My god, how brain-dead does one have to be take yahoos like them seriously?
BTW, just because you think yourself to be above name calling doesn't make what you say any more intelligent or more truthful than those who happen to indulge in casting a few aspersions in their comments.